1 00:00:17,839 --> 00:00:12,940 [Music] 2 00:00:21,109 --> 00:00:17,849 this hope radio for the masses July 8 3 00:00:23,810 --> 00:00:21,119 1947 the Army Air Forces has announced 4 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:23,820 on applying it has been found and is now 5 00:00:29,950 --> 00:00:26,250 in the possession of the army the game 6 00:00:32,780 --> 00:00:29,960 is rigged changed the game changer I 7 00:00:37,070 --> 00:00:32,790 occasionally think how quickly our 8 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:37,080 differences worldwide would vanish if we 9 00:00:43,010 --> 00:00:39,750 were facing an alien threat from outside 10 00:00:48,190 --> 00:00:45,430 [Applause] 11 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:48,200 this is fade to black with your host 12 00:00:54,279 --> 00:00:51,170 shinny church on the game changer radio 13 00:00:58,190 --> 00:00:54,289 network and a GRA 14 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:03,380 I need your help to get to the year 1985 15 00:01:10,450 --> 00:01:07,490 [Music] 16 00:01:16,679 --> 00:01:10,460 fade to black with jimmy touch on the 17 00:01:29,630 --> 00:01:19,789 fade to black 18 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:29,640 the spoke radio for the masses so ioud 19 00:01:40,419 --> 00:01:33,210 doin that's right it's Tuesday October 20 00:01:44,270 --> 00:01:40,429 9th 2018 285 days into the new year just 21 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:44,280 80 days left we are live from a bunker 22 00:01:51,039 --> 00:01:48,329 somewhere in the middle of beautiful 23 00:01:52,599 --> 00:01:51,049 downtown Burbank California 24 00:01:55,389 --> 00:01:52,609 and I would like to watch him everybody 25 00:01:58,929 --> 00:01:55,399 listening all around the world all 26 00:02:01,510 --> 00:01:58,939 across the United States hither and 27 00:02:05,260 --> 00:02:01,520 thither to and fro back and forth up and 28 00:02:09,499 --> 00:02:05,270 down east and west north and south far 29 00:02:12,020 --> 00:02:09,509 and near Yemen 30 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:12,030 it's fade to black 4k JCR the 31 00:02:18,380 --> 00:02:14,610 GameChanger network and Katy are a the 32 00:02:20,899 --> 00:02:18,390 planets I am your host Jimmy Church 33 00:02:25,100 --> 00:02:20,909 what is crack and everybody how you 34 00:02:32,030 --> 00:02:25,110 doing that's right it's Tuesday which 35 00:02:37,539 --> 00:02:32,040 means it is day two of our Egypt week 36 00:02:41,119 --> 00:02:37,549 here on fade to black yeah man and 37 00:02:46,930 --> 00:02:41,129 tonight very special guest Christopher 38 00:02:51,130 --> 00:02:46,940 Dunn is finally here that's right I 39 00:02:54,319 --> 00:02:51,140 finally made my way to Christopher Dunn 40 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:54,329 so get ready for that it is gonna be a 41 00:03:00,650 --> 00:02:56,970 very very fun and informative and 42 00:03:03,170 --> 00:03:00,660 knowledgeable show incredible Chris Dunn 43 00:03:06,860 --> 00:03:03,180 is here want to remind everybody 44 00:03:10,130 --> 00:03:06,870 tomorrow night night three of our Egypt 45 00:03:13,789 --> 00:03:10,140 week Brad Claussen is gonna be joining 46 00:03:16,849 --> 00:03:13,799 us that's right the artist is going to 47 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:16,859 be here now we all know Brad from from 48 00:03:21,229 --> 00:03:18,750 Pearl Jam of course at Metallica and 49 00:03:24,379 --> 00:03:21,239 Nine Inch Nails and Soundgarden and I 50 00:03:27,259 --> 00:03:24,389 could go on and on there's that fish 51 00:03:30,650 --> 00:03:27,269 right I can go on and on we know Brad 52 00:03:33,530 --> 00:03:30,660 from that but his foundation and his 53 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:33,540 knowledge when it comes to ancient Egypt 54 00:03:38,780 --> 00:03:36,090 and artwork and sculpture and the 55 00:03:42,020 --> 00:03:38,790 symbology and and what it all means and 56 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:42,030 how not only does he incorporate it into 57 00:03:49,879 --> 00:03:45,450 his own artwork and his and his rock and 58 00:03:53,150 --> 00:03:49,889 roll stuff but how it's changed us and 59 00:03:54,789 --> 00:03:53,160 and and what it truly means and he's one 60 00:03:58,129 --> 00:03:54,799 of the great artists on this planet and 61 00:04:00,170 --> 00:03:58,139 of our generation serious business 62 00:04:02,059 --> 00:04:00,180 tomorrow night Brad Claussen is here so 63 00:04:05,089 --> 00:04:02,069 what what I mean last night my new 64 00:04:06,470 --> 00:04:05,099 tonight Chris tomorrow night Brad it 65 00:04:09,470 --> 00:04:06,480 just doesn't get any better 66 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:09,480 it really doesn't why why is everybody 67 00:04:14,930 --> 00:04:11,760 going with this Taco Tuesday how do you 68 00:04:15,259 --> 00:04:14,940 guys know that that's what I'm gonna do 69 00:04:18,860 --> 00:04:15,269 tonight 70 00:04:19,370 --> 00:04:18,870 well it's my birthday well tomorrow's my 71 00:04:23,470 --> 00:04:19,380 birthday 72 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:23,480 okay so let's be clear on that but if I 73 00:04:28,570 --> 00:04:25,730 push it I can get it to midnight and 74 00:04:31,150 --> 00:04:28,580 then I get to eat what I want right all 75 00:04:33,490 --> 00:04:31,160 the way through til midnight tomorrow so 76 00:04:36,490 --> 00:04:33,500 maybe I will do a taco truck on the way 77 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:36,500 home but that's on me but thank you for 78 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:39,050 the suggestion I think we're doing tacos 79 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:41,450 tonight there you go it is night to 80 00:04:47,290 --> 00:04:44,330 Egypt week here on fade to black you 81 00:04:49,780 --> 00:04:47,300 know what to do all the social media 82 00:04:52,870 --> 00:04:49,790 platforms that's what we do here on 83 00:04:54,850 --> 00:04:52,880 stellar on stellar dot-com Twitter 84 00:04:56,110 --> 00:04:54,860 Facebook YouTube everything is to be 85 00:04:59,410 --> 00:04:56,120 Church fade to black you know what to do 86 00:05:02,710 --> 00:04:59,420 okay and head over to and stellar comm 87 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:02,720 register is such a great social media 88 00:05:07,660 --> 00:05:06,110 platform a design and built for you so 89 00:05:13,870 --> 00:05:07,670 much fun to hang out over there it did 90 00:05:18,670 --> 00:05:13,880 it all day today by the way man yeah 91 00:05:23,220 --> 00:05:18,680 yeah and I went I'm I you know what I'm 92 00:05:26,620 --> 00:05:23,230 gonna do this I I don't know maybe by 93 00:05:28,900 --> 00:05:26,630 Thursday I'll have all you know what I 94 00:05:34,990 --> 00:05:28,910 did today Rita doesn't even know this 95 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:35,000 but I went and and did some birthday 96 00:05:45,250 --> 00:05:40,730 shopping on Amazon for myself I really 97 00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:45,260 did hey you know I think one is going to 98 00:05:50,590 --> 00:05:48,800 be here tomorrow and I can't wait to 99 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:50,600 show it to you guys and then there'll be 100 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:53,450 another one here on Thursday I couldn't 101 00:05:58,810 --> 00:05:55,970 it was a pair but it was weird 102 00:06:01,150 --> 00:05:58,820 it was it was a it was a set but I 103 00:06:03,970 --> 00:06:01,160 couldn't get the set to ship on the same 104 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:03,980 day or arrive on the same day you know 105 00:06:08,950 --> 00:06:06,680 and and and Amazon's funny with that you 106 00:06:10,180 --> 00:06:08,960 know you have to do this and do this and 107 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:10,190 you can get them both on the same 108 00:06:14,290 --> 00:06:12,800 shipment if you you know do that and I 109 00:06:16,890 --> 00:06:14,300 couldn't get it to line up 110 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:16,900 I couldn't through a bunch of different 111 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:20,090 vendors I couldn't get it to arrive on 112 00:06:24,660 --> 00:06:22,490 the same day I'm so upset about that but 113 00:06:28,270 --> 00:06:24,670 anyway so that's what I did today I 114 00:06:30,220 --> 00:06:28,280 shopped for myself and I just couldn't I 115 00:06:31,510 --> 00:06:30,230 couldn't help myself I couldn't help 116 00:06:34,130 --> 00:06:31,520 myself but you're gonna you're gonna 117 00:06:35,930 --> 00:06:34,140 really dig it's also tea on Thursday 118 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:35,940 and I don't want to it's gonna have to 119 00:06:43,820 --> 00:06:40,650 be Thursday because if I do one tomorrow 120 00:06:45,950 --> 00:06:43,830 and show to them that then the one on 121 00:06:49,130 --> 00:06:45,960 Thursday you know but if I do it all at 122 00:06:51,860 --> 00:06:49,140 the same time yeah yeah so you'll have 123 00:06:53,900 --> 00:06:51,870 to wait until Thursday thank you for all 124 00:06:55,850 --> 00:06:53,910 the birthday wishes by the way they're 125 00:06:58,790 --> 00:06:55,860 coming in now and I really appreciate 126 00:07:01,070 --> 00:06:58,800 that it is I know it's the big double 127 00:07:05,210 --> 00:07:01,080 nickel yeah that's right fifty-five 128 00:07:07,010 --> 00:07:05,220 years old I don't feel it I know I'm not 129 00:07:09,380 --> 00:07:07,020 begging for compliments here you don't 130 00:07:12,830 --> 00:07:09,390 have to say Jimmy you don't look it but 131 00:07:15,470 --> 00:07:12,840 I certainly don't feel it I didn't if 132 00:07:19,340 --> 00:07:15,480 this is what they you know if this is 133 00:07:22,820 --> 00:07:19,350 what 55 is because when I was a kid 55 134 00:07:26,540 --> 00:07:22,830 was bleep an agent ancient and and the 135 00:07:30,770 --> 00:07:26,550 people that I knew that were 55 acted 55 136 00:07:34,310 --> 00:07:30,780 and they looked 55 I I'm not that person 137 00:07:37,460 --> 00:07:34,320 I just I don't feel it 138 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:37,470 all right so there you go but yeah 55 139 00:07:42,980 --> 00:07:40,170 years old all right okay where am I at 140 00:07:44,510 --> 00:07:42,990 at J Church radio is Twitter very simple 141 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:44,520 you know what to do go follow like and 142 00:07:49,550 --> 00:07:46,890 subscribe over two meters radio calm the 143 00:07:51,860 --> 00:07:49,560 sandbox is hashtag F to be any questions 144 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:51,870 or comments during the show just use 145 00:07:58,010 --> 00:07:55,530 hashtag F to be Q you can also email 146 00:08:02,720 --> 00:07:58,020 throughout the show tonight Jimmy at 147 00:08:07,610 --> 00:08:02,730 Jimmy Church radio.com okay I've got 148 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:07,620 some sad news breaking news and I've 149 00:08:15,460 --> 00:08:09,690 just I've got to get this out of the way 150 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:15,470 and and I'm crushed Rita is crushed but 151 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:19,410 our dear friend of this community and of 152 00:08:25,070 --> 00:08:22,490 yours and of this show Celeste Yarnell 153 00:08:28,790 --> 00:08:25,080 passed away she left this earth 154 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:28,800 this past Sunday October 7th our 155 00:08:31,970 --> 00:08:30,800 thoughts and prayers go out to her 156 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:31,980 husband 157 00:08:43,300 --> 00:08:36,890 nassim and and her family so Celeste is 158 00:08:47,340 --> 00:08:43,310 just an amazing dynamic smart beautiful 159 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:47,350 person and long struggle and 160 00:08:54,780 --> 00:08:50,650 we all know about that but it's just sad 161 00:08:56,550 --> 00:08:54,790 sad sad sad sad and and you know I think 162 00:08:58,710 --> 00:08:56,560 of a couple of things when I think of 163 00:08:59,580 --> 00:08:58,720 Celeste most people think of Star Trek 164 00:09:02,490 --> 00:08:59,590 and I get that 165 00:09:05,010 --> 00:09:02,500 I really do it just popped up on Twitter 166 00:09:05,670 --> 00:09:05,020 it took it took every bit of that long 167 00:09:12,110 --> 00:09:05,680 there she is 168 00:09:16,740 --> 00:09:12,120 in Star Trek but it's Alvis always 169 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:16,750 Celeste I hope that you're in a very 170 00:09:22,140 --> 00:09:19,810 very very beautiful place and you know 171 00:09:26,250 --> 00:09:22,150 how many friends that you look behind 172 00:09:29,550 --> 00:09:26,260 down here so just go and do your thing 173 00:09:32,580 --> 00:09:29,560 and we'll see you soon okay Celeste 174 00:09:35,940 --> 00:09:32,590 Yarnell passed away October 7th she was 175 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:35,950 74 years old all right other breaking 176 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:40,720 news nikki Haley surprised the world 177 00:09:48,060 --> 00:09:44,260 today by resigning as the United States 178 00:09:51,540 --> 00:09:48,070 ambassador to the United Nations nobody 179 00:09:58,830 --> 00:09:51,550 knows why a year and a half on the job 180 00:10:03,690 --> 00:09:58,840 and and quit hey I gotta say Mickey 181 00:10:06,180 --> 00:10:03,700 I think she was actually like I really 182 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:06,190 do alright for for the political world 183 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:09,910 and and the world stage politics in 184 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:13,330 general you know nikki Haley Wow so 185 00:10:17,970 --> 00:10:16,210 anyway for whatever reason I think she 186 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:17,980 surprised everybody including the White 187 00:10:22,830 --> 00:10:20,650 House maybe even her family I think she 188 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:22,840 just woke up today and said I don't want 189 00:10:27,810 --> 00:10:25,330 to do this anymore and there you go she 190 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:27,820 resigned today ambassador to the United 191 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:29,490 Nations 192 00:10:35,940 --> 00:10:33,250 Fernando Alban now now I need you to 193 00:10:40,290 --> 00:10:35,950 listen to this this is huge 194 00:10:42,570 --> 00:10:40,300 breaking news Fernando Alban one of the 195 00:10:44,550 --> 00:10:42,580 suspects accused of trying to 196 00:10:48,690 --> 00:10:44,560 assassinate Venezuelan president and 197 00:10:53,810 --> 00:10:48,700 Nicolas Maduro right with drones drones 198 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:53,820 armed with explosives died by suicide 199 00:11:01,170 --> 00:10:57,930 after jumping out a 10th floor window of 200 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:01,180 the Bolivarian in 201 00:11:10,700 --> 00:11:04,090 halogens service the Venezuelans 202 00:11:14,250 --> 00:11:10,710 intelligence agency and yeah right 203 00:11:16,410 --> 00:11:14,260 what okay I'm supposed to be a 204 00:11:18,180 --> 00:11:16,420 professional broadcast here here I'm not 205 00:11:20,940 --> 00:11:18,190 supposed to have that kind of reaction 206 00:11:23,190 --> 00:11:20,950 to to the news I'm just supposed to 207 00:11:23,940 --> 00:11:23,200 report than is right I'm not supposed to 208 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:23,950 have an opinion 209 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:27,910 Yeah right the flood waters that 210 00:11:32,850 --> 00:11:30,730 followed Hurricane Florence which made 211 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:32,860 landfall in North Carolina on September 212 00:11:41,250 --> 00:11:37,650 14th have now spawned millions of 213 00:11:46,610 --> 00:11:41,260 mega-monster mosquitoes across the state 214 00:11:50,790 --> 00:11:46,620 and they are three times the size of 215 00:12:00,030 --> 00:11:50,800 normal mosquitoes and they can bite 216 00:12:02,130 --> 00:12:00,040 through two layers of clothing right I 217 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:02,140 mean you've got flooding you've got your 218 00:12:06,530 --> 00:12:03,970 house get the kids get things you got 219 00:12:12,330 --> 00:12:06,540 stuff to worry about it now you got 220 00:12:14,990 --> 00:12:12,340 giant monster of monster mosquitoes that 221 00:12:18,330 --> 00:12:15,000 they're gonna attack you can you imagine 222 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:18,340 the the stinger and the mouth and the 223 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:22,450 bite on a miss giant mosquito giant 224 00:12:27,690 --> 00:12:25,690 pissed-off mosquito think about that for 225 00:12:29,330 --> 00:12:27,700 a second all right the big announcement 226 00:12:32,580 --> 00:12:29,340 came today 227 00:12:36,510 --> 00:12:32,590 The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame announced 228 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:36,520 its nominees for induction into the 2019 229 00:12:46,740 --> 00:12:40,050 class are you ready kids 230 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:46,750 Def Leppard Devo John Prine Roxy Music 231 00:12:55,770 --> 00:12:51,930 Stevie Nicks Todd Rundgren LL Cool J 232 00:12:59,310 --> 00:12:55,780 Kraftwerk Janet Jackson mc5 out of 233 00:13:00,260 --> 00:12:59,320 Detroit Radiohead Rage Against the 234 00:13:03,870 --> 00:13:00,270 Machine 235 00:13:09,450 --> 00:13:03,880 Rufus featuring Chaka Khan The Cure in 236 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:09,460 the zombies now I gotta say okay alright 237 00:13:14,670 --> 00:13:11,590 alright let me get to the top five 238 00:13:18,299 --> 00:13:14,680 artists as selected by the public 239 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:18,309 we'll be announced in December the 2019 240 00:13:22,199 --> 00:13:20,170 induction ceremony will be held at the 241 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:22,209 Barclays Center in Brooklyn New York on 242 00:13:33,660 --> 00:13:27,569 March 29th 2019 and I'm gonna say it now 243 00:13:36,389 --> 00:13:33,670 can't they all get inducted out of every 244 00:13:37,799 --> 00:13:36,399 year every every announcement every year 245 00:13:41,579 --> 00:13:37,809 by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame we've 246 00:13:46,290 --> 00:13:41,589 all went oh come on really what is this 247 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:46,300 but that Def Leppard Evo John Prine Roxy 248 00:13:52,410 --> 00:13:48,730 Music Stevie Nicks Todd Rundgren LL Cool 249 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:52,420 J Kraft word Janet Jackson mc5 Radiohead 250 00:13:57,929 --> 00:13:54,689 Rage Against the Machine 251 00:14:03,509 --> 00:13:57,939 Rufus featuring Chaka Khan The Cure and 252 00:14:05,910 --> 00:14:03,519 the zombies huh and you know what that 253 00:14:13,049 --> 00:14:05,920 sounds like you know what I can do this 254 00:14:17,549 --> 00:14:13,059 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 255 00:14:22,199 --> 00:14:17,559 17 I'm gonna do for my bumper music this 256 00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:22,209 weekend on coast I'm using this list for 257 00:14:27,710 --> 00:14:24,160 the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame I'm just 258 00:14:30,449 --> 00:14:27,720 telling you right now that is that is 259 00:14:32,730 --> 00:14:30,459 it's just not right only the top 5 make 260 00:14:34,889 --> 00:14:32,740 it and I don't even know where to go 261 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:34,899 with that yeah Def Leppard they deserve 262 00:14:41,549 --> 00:14:38,410 it Roxy Music mc5 Rage Against the 263 00:14:43,110 --> 00:14:41,559 Machine for sure the Cure yes the 264 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:43,120 zombies Todd Rundgren 265 00:14:50,249 --> 00:14:47,290 you know I'm man LL Cool J Janet Jackson 266 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:50,259 I don't know what to do here I don't 267 00:14:56,699 --> 00:14:54,490 John Prine oh man that's incredible it's 268 00:14:59,280 --> 00:14:56,709 an incredible list I just gave you mine 269 00:15:02,789 --> 00:14:59,290 look Def Leppard yeah gotta go there he 270 00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:02,799 got to go there mc5 yes Rage Against the 271 00:15:06,869 --> 00:15:04,720 Machine yes the cure of the zombies 272 00:15:09,689 --> 00:15:06,879 there's my five you know and I'm cutting 273 00:15:11,910 --> 00:15:09,699 out Roxy Music that ain't right Stevie 274 00:15:21,269 --> 00:15:11,920 Nicks any right Todd Rundgren hello it's 275 00:15:25,290 --> 00:15:21,279 me man mc5 I kick out the jams who even 276 00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:27,360 kick out the jams I toured with this 277 00:15:35,970 --> 00:15:32,160 band they were called the big f and I 278 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:35,980 think I think they opened with kick out 279 00:15:41,460 --> 00:15:39,010 the jams are they closed with a cover 280 00:15:44,450 --> 00:15:41,470 version of a I can't remember Marc 281 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:44,460 Christian if you're listening right now 282 00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:47,490 tweet in what what song did you get a 283 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:50,560 kick out the jams was that opener or was 284 00:15:56,310 --> 00:15:54,310 that an encore I can't remember they did 285 00:15:58,860 --> 00:15:56,320 a good version of it though don't forget 286 00:16:01,650 --> 00:15:58,870 to subscribe to our podcast it is just 287 00:16:03,540 --> 00:16:01,660 two dollars per month go to Jimmy Church 288 00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:03,550 radio.com click on the podcast banner 289 00:16:08,820 --> 00:16:06,160 you can also become a fade or not in our 290 00:16:10,170 --> 00:16:08,830 membership section on the site all you 291 00:16:12,660 --> 00:16:10,180 got to do is click on that that's all 292 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:12,670 you got to do and you get commercial 293 00:16:16,620 --> 00:16:14,710 free downloadable archives autograph 294 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:16,630 gear all that stuff ok 295 00:16:25,710 --> 00:16:21,130 alright alright let's get this show 296 00:16:32,070 --> 00:16:25,720 crackin happy birthday to today Sharon 297 00:16:35,430 --> 00:16:32,080 Osbourne is only 66 director Guillermo 298 00:16:38,430 --> 00:16:35,440 del Toro today is 54 Pan's Labyrinth 299 00:16:41,070 --> 00:16:38,440 Hellboy Pacific Rim the shape of water 300 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:41,080 didn't that win that one when the Oscar 301 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:42,880 last year didn't it a couple years ago 302 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:49,170 Tony Shalhoub today is 65 Sean Lennon 303 00:16:59,130 --> 00:16:54,850 today is 43 that's right son of John and 304 00:17:05,370 --> 00:16:59,140 Yoko which takes me to our dead guys 305 00:17:06,329 --> 00:17:05,380 birthday today is John Lennon 1940 to 306 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:06,339 1980 307 00:17:12,030 --> 00:17:08,890 of course died at the age of 40 in New 308 00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:12,040 York City he released Double Fantasy on 309 00:17:19,170 --> 00:17:15,910 November 17th right before his death on 310 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:19,180 December 8th 1980 the album won a Grammy 311 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:23,050 Award for album of the year and when 312 00:17:28,830 --> 00:17:26,530 that happened I was in high school when 313 00:17:30,900 --> 00:17:28,840 John was shot and killed I was in high 314 00:17:32,130 --> 00:17:30,910 school back in Indianapolis going to 315 00:17:37,370 --> 00:17:32,140 Warren Central High School I was a 316 00:17:40,790 --> 00:17:37,380 senior and snow outside it was a 317 00:17:42,380 --> 00:17:40,800 it was a very it was my senior year in 318 00:17:45,020 --> 00:17:42,390 high school you know and and it was just 319 00:17:49,790 --> 00:17:45,030 a very fun Christmas I remember that and 320 00:17:51,650 --> 00:17:49,800 that album and the the hits that were 321 00:17:55,810 --> 00:17:51,660 rolling out were all over the radio 322 00:18:00,170 --> 00:17:55,820 right and it was just I think of that 323 00:18:02,420 --> 00:18:00,180 that winter right in Indianapolis and 324 00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:02,430 you know just like starting over right 325 00:18:09,290 --> 00:18:04,110 oh man 326 00:18:11,210 --> 00:18:09,300 so anyway I I just came home and walked 327 00:18:14,450 --> 00:18:11,220 in my bedroom and and turned on my 328 00:18:17,900 --> 00:18:14,460 little ghetto blaster and got the news 329 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:17,910 from q95 John Lennon shot and killed 330 00:18:25,460 --> 00:18:22,050 today New York and I've never never 331 00:18:29,530 --> 00:18:25,470 forgotten that tie in for me that album 332 00:18:32,330 --> 00:18:29,540 Double Fantasy just like starting over 333 00:18:35,570 --> 00:18:32,340 Christmas Indianapolis and John Lennon 334 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:35,580 and q95 man it's just like it's just 335 00:18:40,070 --> 00:18:39,210 bizarre to me but there you go and it's 336 00:18:41,930 --> 00:18:40,080 isn't it 337 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:41,940 you know it's Shawn Lenin's birthday two 338 00:18:48,350 --> 00:18:44,970 very very very cool on this day in 339 00:18:51,470 --> 00:18:48,360 history 1992 an 18 year-old Michelle 340 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:51,480 Knapp is watching television in her 341 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:53,490 parents living room in Peekskill New 342 00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:56,250 York when she hears a thunderous crash 343 00:19:03,020 --> 00:19:00,000 in the driveway now she found a sizeable 344 00:19:06,110 --> 00:19:03,030 hole in the rear end of her car which 345 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:06,120 was an orange 1980 Chevy Malibu by the 346 00:19:12,620 --> 00:19:09,210 way a matching hole in the gravel 347 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:12,630 driveway underneath the car and in that 348 00:19:18,140 --> 00:19:15,510 hole what looked like a bowling ball or 349 00:19:22,430 --> 00:19:18,150 a football it was warm to the touch and 350 00:19:24,740 --> 00:19:22,440 smelled like rotten eggs well the next 351 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:24,750 day a curator from the American Museum 352 00:19:31,630 --> 00:19:27,890 of Natural History in New York City 353 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:31,640 confirm that the object was indeed a 354 00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:35,490 meteorite and that happened on this day 355 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:41,280 in 1992 Fader fact Russian cosmonauts 356 00:19:51,379 --> 00:19:44,370 down remember this is vetted this is a 357 00:19:57,409 --> 00:19:51,389 fact this is a fader fact Russian 358 00:20:00,499 --> 00:19:57,419 it's used to pack a shotgun in their 359 00:20:04,609 --> 00:20:00,509 space capsule in Soyuz in their space 360 00:20:10,369 --> 00:20:04,619 capsule in case they landed in Siberia 361 00:20:12,379 --> 00:20:10,379 and had to fend off bears and that is 362 00:20:15,829 --> 00:20:12,389 your fate of it I know you thinking I'm 363 00:20:18,889 --> 00:20:15,839 making it up okay i-i've got to do a 364 00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:18,899 fader Factbook you know that's it I got 365 00:20:28,339 --> 00:20:24,200 to do a fader fact page page we've done 366 00:20:31,509 --> 00:20:28,349 five years worth of shows we wonder how 367 00:20:35,690 --> 00:20:31,519 many fader facts edit well it would be 368 00:20:38,749 --> 00:20:35,700 930 930 fader facts is that enough for a 369 00:20:41,389 --> 00:20:38,759 book that enough for a book how many on 370 00:20:43,729 --> 00:20:41,399 a page is that enough for a book should 371 00:20:48,739 --> 00:20:43,739 I do a book of fader facts yeah I think 372 00:20:50,989 --> 00:20:48,749 I should but I didn't write it I didn't 373 00:20:54,249 --> 00:20:50,999 write the facts I didn't create the 374 00:20:57,289 --> 00:20:54,259 facts but could I do what I need 375 00:20:59,930 --> 00:20:57,299 clearances I have to get everybody's 376 00:21:01,909 --> 00:20:59,940 position permission like the Russian 377 00:21:04,729 --> 00:21:01,919 cosmonaut so but I have to get clearance 378 00:21:08,079 --> 00:21:04,739 from Moscow and Putin to put that in a 379 00:21:11,959 --> 00:21:08,089 book I need to talk to a lawyer yeah 380 00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:11,969 tonight is night two of our Egypt week 381 00:21:16,099 --> 00:21:13,919 we have very special guest Christopher 382 00:21:18,529 --> 00:21:16,109 Dunn he is finally here tomorrow night 383 00:21:21,079 --> 00:21:18,539 artist Brad Claussen is joining the show 384 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:21,089 for the first time three nights three 385 00:21:25,339 --> 00:21:23,369 first-time guest Thursday is another 386 00:21:32,060 --> 00:21:25,349 Fator night with open lines all night 387 00:21:36,940 --> 00:21:32,070 long now got a hit my fade to black 388 00:21:41,449 --> 00:21:36,950 blend you know what I did today I 389 00:21:44,779 --> 00:21:41,459 actually did this new manna food storage 390 00:21:47,089 --> 00:21:44,789 they have protein packs so you can get 391 00:21:48,949 --> 00:21:47,099 organic chicken right it's dehydrated 392 00:21:52,459 --> 00:21:48,959 and then they also have seasoned ground 393 00:21:56,839 --> 00:21:52,469 beef right so I decided to try the 394 00:22:01,240 --> 00:21:56,849 ground beef so I made the ground beef at 395 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:01,250 home and I made nachos 396 00:22:08,650 --> 00:22:06,410 I did oh why did I think of that I just 397 00:22:13,870 --> 00:22:08,660 thought of that all of a sudden all 398 00:22:15,370 --> 00:22:13,880 right well anyway our community y'all 399 00:22:17,860 --> 00:22:15,380 thinking of fade to black blind that's 400 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:17,870 why I thought of that our community has 401 00:22:21,970 --> 00:22:19,310 some of the brightest in intellectuals 402 00:22:23,980 --> 00:22:21,980 guiding us through the years and it's 403 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:23,990 just an amazing thing that we have these 404 00:22:30,670 --> 00:22:27,050 bright beautiful researchers and authors 405 00:22:32,590 --> 00:22:30,680 and we speak of them often here on the 406 00:22:34,450 --> 00:22:32,600 show and I'm talking about you know the 407 00:22:38,530 --> 00:22:34,460 top that happened in the tippity-top 408 00:22:40,750 --> 00:22:38,540 like Graham Hancock Robert Bauval Robert 409 00:22:44,350 --> 00:22:40,760 Schoch Richard Dolan Linda Moulton Howe 410 00:22:49,180 --> 00:22:44,360 Andrew Collins write Jacques Vallee 411 00:22:51,490 --> 00:22:49,190 erich von daniken and and of course John 412 00:22:56,050 --> 00:22:51,500 Anthony Weston Jim Marrs who both 413 00:22:58,380 --> 00:22:56,060 recently left this realm for another but 414 00:23:01,540 --> 00:22:58,390 the list is both long and short 415 00:23:04,780 --> 00:23:01,550 depending on how you look at it but this 416 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:04,790 would I just this is totally not 417 00:23:15,070 --> 00:23:10,250 complete but but you get the idea right 418 00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:15,080 but I just like all of you have looked 419 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:17,600 towards these shining lights of 420 00:23:22,690 --> 00:23:20,450 knowledge for their next book their next 421 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:22,700 public appearance you know their next 422 00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:25,730 documentary their next interview the 423 00:23:32,260 --> 00:23:29,840 next gem that nugget right that missing 424 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:32,270 puzzle piece that we're all looking for 425 00:23:41,380 --> 00:23:37,610 and we all do it we do Christopher Dunn 426 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:41,390 is also on that list when he's on that 427 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:44,510 list for so many reasons our community 428 00:23:53,140 --> 00:23:49,130 needs someone like Chris that has that 429 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:53,150 professional background the street cred 430 00:24:01,150 --> 00:23:58,010 the CV that looks at the world with a 431 00:24:02,830 --> 00:24:01,160 different set of eyes so that we too can 432 00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:02,840 look at things just a little bit 433 00:24:09,820 --> 00:24:07,910 differently but when but when you have 434 00:24:12,970 --> 00:24:09,830 that engineering background that Chris 435 00:24:14,530 --> 00:24:12,980 possesses you also get to share the 436 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:14,540 other side of what is 437 00:24:19,810 --> 00:24:17,810 really going on how things were done how 438 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:19,820 they were made constructed designed and 439 00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:22,490 of course ultimately you know what they 440 00:24:30,730 --> 00:24:26,260 may have been used for and it could be 441 00:24:34,180 --> 00:24:30,740 anything all things everything if it 442 00:24:36,190 --> 00:24:34,190 doesn't grow out of the ground somebody 443 00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:36,200 built it somebody designed it somebody 444 00:24:42,190 --> 00:24:38,120 thought about it it has a purpose it has 445 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:42,200 a meaning it's used for something and it 446 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:43,970 doesn't matter right it doesn't matter 447 00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:46,610 if it's a palette to spread makeup on 448 00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:48,880 your feller you know something to grind 449 00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:52,190 something to to move something to set up 450 00:24:55,810 --> 00:24:53,600 something to build with it doesn't 451 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:55,820 matter everything that you look at 452 00:24:59,800 --> 00:24:57,770 around you right now look around the 453 00:25:02,500 --> 00:24:59,810 room that you are in if you're in a car 454 00:25:07,030 --> 00:25:02,510 look around everything in there was 455 00:25:11,370 --> 00:25:07,040 design built manufactured for purpose by 456 00:25:16,540 --> 00:25:11,380 somebody that's what Christopher does I 457 00:25:19,540 --> 00:25:16,550 have over the years I have watched I 458 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:19,550 have read I have listened to just about 459 00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:23,930 everything he has done it's the way my 460 00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:26,960 brain works I look at things differently 461 00:25:33,370 --> 00:25:30,740 and I I need different things I like 462 00:25:36,340 --> 00:25:33,380 documentaries I like non-fiction books I 463 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:36,350 like instruction manuals that's that's 464 00:25:42,430 --> 00:25:38,690 that's you know that's that's the way my 465 00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:42,440 brain works now I need I need that 466 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:45,440 mechanical that engineering speak I live 467 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:48,170 for that and although I can appreciate 468 00:25:55,390 --> 00:25:52,310 the esoteric the spiritual the 469 00:25:58,120 --> 00:25:55,400 supernatural take on things and I need 470 00:26:01,780 --> 00:25:58,130 that too there's another side that has 471 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:01,790 to exist to put it all together to make 472 00:26:10,450 --> 00:26:05,570 it all work and you need to think about 473 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:10,460 things like that there are when you when 474 00:26:18,340 --> 00:26:13,610 you look at I'll give you a perfect 475 00:26:20,770 --> 00:26:18,350 example of how my brain works I'm at a 476 00:26:22,540 --> 00:26:20,780 museum I'm at the Met in New York with 477 00:26:24,340 --> 00:26:22,550 Rita and we're looking at Egyptian 478 00:26:26,110 --> 00:26:24,350 mummies and we're going down and I'm 479 00:26:27,549 --> 00:26:26,120 looking at these mummies and then below 480 00:26:30,460 --> 00:26:27,559 the mummies are the 481 00:26:32,289 --> 00:26:30,470 is golden sandals and and they're 482 00:26:33,730 --> 00:26:32,299 beautiful and they're artistic and there 483 00:26:35,529 --> 00:26:33,740 are those that are out there that are 484 00:26:39,369 --> 00:26:35,539 gonna look at it for it it's an 485 00:26:41,379 --> 00:26:39,379 aesthetic value and its beauty and and 486 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:41,389 and you should write because that's what 487 00:26:47,249 --> 00:26:43,850 they were there for I don't look I look 488 00:26:50,919 --> 00:26:47,259 at it and go how did they make those 489 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:50,929 look how thin the gold is look how its 490 00:26:56,590 --> 00:26:53,450 shaped look at the little beads look at 491 00:26:59,169 --> 00:26:56,600 how did they what how old are these at 492 00:27:02,409 --> 00:26:59,179 one for a thousand years how did they 493 00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:02,419 what right that's the way I look at it 494 00:27:08,919 --> 00:27:06,009 and I look at everything that way 495 00:27:11,859 --> 00:27:08,929 everything every wall every building 496 00:27:14,830 --> 00:27:11,869 every piece of carving and writing and 497 00:27:19,239 --> 00:27:14,840 taxed in this I look at everything that 498 00:27:23,049 --> 00:27:19,249 way how did they do it even today even 499 00:27:26,139 --> 00:27:23,059 today I do the very same thing there are 500 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:26,149 reasons why everybody that it has taken 501 00:27:32,169 --> 00:27:29,210 so long to finally have mr. Dunn on this 502 00:27:36,730 --> 00:27:32,179 show and I'm not going to go into them 503 00:27:39,879 --> 00:27:36,740 here I'm a little embarrassed but I we 504 00:27:42,879 --> 00:27:39,889 have waited long enough and tonight is 505 00:27:44,889 --> 00:27:42,889 the night Christopher Dunn is here I'm 506 00:27:46,690 --> 00:27:44,899 gonna break away for this quick 507 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:46,700 commercial break and I'll be back with 508 00:27:52,930 --> 00:27:49,730 our guest Christopher Dunn night two of 509 00:27:55,269 --> 00:27:52,940 our fabulous Egypt week here on fade to 510 00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:55,279 black and we're only halfway through it 511 00:27:59,139 --> 00:27:57,679 we're only halfway through our meals to 512 00:28:02,259 --> 00:27:59,149 be Church our guest tonight Christopher 513 00:28:05,049 --> 00:28:02,269 Dunn on the GameChanger network and kg 514 00:28:08,409 --> 00:28:05,059 are a the planet you can follow me on 515 00:28:10,239 --> 00:28:08,419 twitter 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00:33:09,510 --> 00:33:07,010 [Music] 603 00:33:11,220 --> 00:33:09,520 all right welcome back fade to black I 604 00:33:14,130 --> 00:33:11,230 am your host Amy Church I'm the game 605 00:33:17,610 --> 00:33:14,140 changer network and kgr a the planet you 606 00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:17,620 can follow me on twitter @ JT Radio 607 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:20,590 joined the conversation you know there's 608 00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:25,690 going to be three four thousand tweets 609 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:29,500 tonight and you need to jump over to 610 00:33:33,299 --> 00:33:30,970 hashtag if to be and join in the 611 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:33,309 conversation it's an amazing thing to 612 00:33:38,940 --> 00:33:35,650 see every night on the show that many 613 00:33:41,730 --> 00:33:38,950 tweets what a great audience tonight's 614 00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:41,740 night two of our Egypt week here on fade 615 00:33:46,620 --> 00:33:44,590 to black want to remind everybody 616 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:46,630 tomorrow night artist Brad Claussen is 617 00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:48,250 going to be joining the show but tonight 618 00:33:52,590 --> 00:33:50,440 it's Christopher Dunn and Chris has 619 00:33:55,049 --> 00:33:52,600 worked at every level of high-tech 620 00:33:56,850 --> 00:33:55,059 manufacturing from machinists tool maker 621 00:33:59,760 --> 00:33:56,860 programmer and operator of high-power 622 00:34:03,539 --> 00:33:59,770 industrial lasers project engineer and 623 00:34:06,810 --> 00:34:03,549 laser operations manager Chris's pyramid 624 00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:06,820 Odyssey began in 1977 after he read 625 00:34:12,030 --> 00:34:09,609 Peter Tompkins book secrets of the Great 626 00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:12,040 Pyramid his immediate reaction after 627 00:34:16,109 --> 00:34:14,200 learning of the great pyramids precision 628 00:34:19,139 --> 00:34:16,119 and design characteristics was to 629 00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:19,149 consider that this edifice may have had 630 00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:21,270 an original purpose that differed from 631 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:24,609 conventional opinion Chris concluded 632 00:34:28,859 --> 00:34:26,770 that it must have originally been built 633 00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:28,869 to provide a highly technical society 634 00:34:37,260 --> 00:34:33,280 with an energy in short it was a very 635 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:37,270 large machine now in 1998 the Giza power 636 00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:39,520 plant technologies of ancient Egypt was 637 00:34:43,230 --> 00:34:41,679 published considered to be one of the 638 00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:43,240 most important books written on the 639 00:34:49,649 --> 00:34:46,300 subject today it is indeed required 640 00:34:50,220 --> 00:34:49,659 reading for anyone interested in pyramid 641 00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:50,230 history 642 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:52,030 Chris's second book The Lost 643 00:34:57,690 --> 00:34:54,310 technologies of ancient Egypt was 644 00:34:58,980 --> 00:34:57,700 published in 2010 and in this work he 645 00:35:01,109 --> 00:34:58,990 focused on the manufacturing 646 00:35:04,230 --> 00:35:01,119 capabilities of the ancient Egyptians 647 00:35:06,660 --> 00:35:04,240 and the Magisterial characteristics of 648 00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:06,670 Egyptian architectural and manufacturing 649 00:35:12,090 --> 00:35:09,520 wizardry Chris has published over a 650 00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:12,100 dozen magazine articles including the 651 00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:14,230 much quoted advanced machining in 652 00:35:18,030 --> 00:35:16,960 ancient Egypt in analog back in August 653 00:35:20,610 --> 00:35:18,040 1984 654 00:35:22,740 --> 00:35:20,620 and has had his research referenced in 655 00:35:24,570 --> 00:35:22,750 over a dozen books on Egypt in the 656 00:35:26,370 --> 00:35:24,580 United States he's appeared on pax 657 00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:26,380 television The History Channel Travel 658 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:27,760 Channel Discovery Channel The Learning 659 00:35:32,490 --> 00:35:30,310 Channel Lifetime Television and now 660 00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:32,500 tonight fade to black and I would like 661 00:35:36,750 --> 00:35:34,110 to welcome for the first time 662 00:35:40,290 --> 00:35:36,760 Christopher Dunn Chris good evening how 663 00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:40,300 are you a good evening Jimmy thank you 664 00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:42,160 very much for your invitation tonight 665 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:45,670 and may I wish you a very happy birthday 666 00:35:52,980 --> 00:35:48,250 for tomorrow thank you the double nickel 667 00:35:54,810 --> 00:35:52,990 yeah yeah you know before you say it you 668 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:54,820 can go ahead and call me youngster go 669 00:35:59,630 --> 00:35:55,130 ahead 670 00:36:05,850 --> 00:36:03,390 exactly exactly let's get the first-time 671 00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:05,860 guests disclaimer out of the way I'm 672 00:36:10,980 --> 00:36:08,800 it's an honor for me to finally do this 673 00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:10,990 with you but Chris it's just you and I 674 00:36:13,950 --> 00:36:12,400 sitting on my couch having a 675 00:36:15,810 --> 00:36:13,960 conversation as friends and where the 676 00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:15,820 conversation starts it starts and where 677 00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:17,620 it ends it ends but we're going to end 678 00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:20,520 as friends there you go you ready 679 00:36:22,860 --> 00:36:21,640 absolutely 680 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:22,870 now the next time you're on the show you 681 00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:24,250 don't get the first time guest 682 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:26,710 disclaimer you can't even ask for it 683 00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:35,530 okay so that it's you know it's been a 684 00:36:40,530 --> 00:36:38,560 long time coming I am glad that we 685 00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:40,540 finally have the opportunity to sit down 686 00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:43,870 and chat and I don't know if you heard 687 00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:47,200 my opening remarks but I like so many 688 00:36:53,970 --> 00:36:51,550 others in our community have followed 689 00:36:57,780 --> 00:36:53,980 you and researched you over the years 690 00:37:00,510 --> 00:36:57,790 and I want to out of the gate on behalf 691 00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:00,520 of our community and everybody here at 692 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:03,040 fade to black I want to thank you for 693 00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:07,090 your tenacity for your research for your 694 00:37:12,780 --> 00:37:09,310 dedication and for everything that you 695 00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:12,790 have done for us thank you sir okay well 696 00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:14,800 thank you very much I mean it has been 697 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:18,790 my pleasure my honor to to be able to 698 00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:22,770 contribute in some way now that I want 699 00:37:27,260 --> 00:37:25,380 do this first and I kind of warned you 700 00:37:29,950 --> 00:37:27,270 about this I'm going to get the fan boy 701 00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:29,960 stuff out of the way I'll be I'll be 702 00:37:33,260 --> 00:37:32,700 objective I'll be objective for the rest 703 00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:33,270 of the show 704 00:37:40,090 --> 00:37:37,200 okay I'll be professional but there for 705 00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:40,100 you because I have a design background 706 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:44,040 so I went through all of the big 707 00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:46,650 corporations and and and I know what 708 00:37:50,270 --> 00:37:47,520 that's like 709 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:50,280 to be in a professional engineering 710 00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:52,890 setting so I tend to look at life like 711 00:37:57,020 --> 00:37:54,900 that it's really influenced me a lot I 712 00:37:59,780 --> 00:37:57,030 look at the industrial design and and 713 00:38:04,010 --> 00:37:59,790 and just I look at everything that way 714 00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:04,020 first and you have that same type of 715 00:38:11,810 --> 00:38:09,030 background but you also give us that in 716 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:11,820 our community but through your 717 00:38:17,930 --> 00:38:14,850 professional career leading up to 1977 718 00:38:21,170 --> 00:38:17,940 did you have an interest was there any 719 00:38:23,990 --> 00:38:21,180 did you know what Egypt was about the 720 00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:24,000 ufology or ancient astronaut any of that 721 00:38:32,380 --> 00:38:26,880 stuff did you have any interest at all 722 00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:32,390 oh yes I I had a huge interest in Egypt 723 00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:35,430 in fact my sister is married to an 724 00:38:43,450 --> 00:38:38,880 Egyptian and it always fascinated me 725 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:43,460 Egypt and and the group that I used to 726 00:38:50,210 --> 00:38:47,460 enjoy in every Friday night talk about 727 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:50,220 philosophy generally Egypt and the 728 00:38:55,820 --> 00:38:52,410 pyramids was a topic of conversation so 729 00:38:57,350 --> 00:38:55,830 right that was it's always been a huge 730 00:39:00,890 --> 00:38:57,360 fascination for me and then of course 731 00:39:03,710 --> 00:39:00,900 the you know the the books that were 732 00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:03,720 published back in the early seventies 733 00:39:10,130 --> 00:39:07,200 sixties I think one of the first books 734 00:39:13,370 --> 00:39:10,140 that I bought was the morning of the 735 00:39:17,350 --> 00:39:13,380 magician's my pals and versi and that 736 00:39:22,130 --> 00:39:17,360 was a remarkable book that I absolutely 737 00:39:25,490 --> 00:39:22,140 devoured and it opened up you know in my 738 00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:25,500 mind the the disconnect between what we 739 00:39:33,230 --> 00:39:27,960 were taught in school which is really 740 00:39:36,049 --> 00:39:33,240 very light and then having a a verse to 741 00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,059 put in front of you that describes 742 00:39:41,439 --> 00:39:38,880 a more remarkable civilization and 743 00:39:46,099 --> 00:39:41,449 something that's going on in the past 744 00:39:50,449 --> 00:39:46,109 that is a part of our our history that 745 00:39:53,299 --> 00:39:50,459 we had not been advised of and and so 746 00:39:56,539 --> 00:39:53,309 you know it starts out where you feel 747 00:40:02,089 --> 00:39:56,549 like you have been shortchanged a little 748 00:40:06,370 --> 00:40:02,099 bit and but then at the same time you 749 00:40:11,660 --> 00:40:06,380 begin to look at how how this particular 750 00:40:13,789 --> 00:40:11,670 movement grew over time and and then 751 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:13,799 during that time as you mentioned in 752 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:17,130 your introduction in 1977 there was a 753 00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:18,930 buck it was on the bookshelf it was a 754 00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:21,839 kind of a what I would call a renegade 755 00:40:29,749 --> 00:40:26,609 box box law where they had all these you 756 00:40:31,699 --> 00:40:29,759 know strange titles like secrets of the 757 00:40:36,650 --> 00:40:31,709 Great Pyramid by Peter Tompkins 758 00:40:39,259 --> 00:40:36,660 but that but that book was it kind of 759 00:40:41,479 --> 00:40:39,269 jumped off the shelf at me and so I made 760 00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:41,489 the purchase and took it home and it's a 761 00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:44,609 absolutely remarkable book and it's 762 00:40:51,380 --> 00:40:48,390 opened my mind to a lot of other 763 00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:51,390 researchers you know when you go when 764 00:40:55,759 --> 00:40:53,609 you go through the history of research 765 00:41:00,880 --> 00:40:55,769 in the Great Pyramid and you know you 766 00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:00,890 learn about Davidson and how advise and 767 00:41:07,759 --> 00:41:04,400 William Flinders Petrie right 768 00:41:10,370 --> 00:41:07,769 it's a remarkable remarkable body of 769 00:41:14,539 --> 00:41:10,380 work that has been generated for over a 770 00:41:17,319 --> 00:41:14,549 hundred years and so people were asking 771 00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:17,329 the same questions that we are asking 772 00:41:25,969 --> 00:41:21,630 more back in the 1700s they worried 773 00:41:28,539 --> 00:41:25,979 isn't that a fascinating aspect out of 774 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:28,549 all of this whether it's de Lubitz or or 775 00:41:37,789 --> 00:41:35,249 or Tompkins ever all everybody even the 776 00:41:40,759 --> 00:41:37,799 fringe right even the French they were 777 00:41:44,209 --> 00:41:40,769 asking the same questions that we are 778 00:41:48,140 --> 00:41:44,219 asking today they approached geesa and 779 00:41:49,130 --> 00:41:48,150 any chip and looked around and just what 780 00:41:52,460 --> 00:41:49,140 it 781 00:41:54,410 --> 00:41:52,470 what right they all ask the very very 782 00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:54,420 same questions and we're still chasing 783 00:42:00,740 --> 00:41:58,890 it still chasing it yes and that just 784 00:42:04,220 --> 00:42:00,750 scratching the surface really because 785 00:42:06,410 --> 00:42:04,230 what we were what we are left with is 786 00:42:09,950 --> 00:42:06,420 just the skeleton of an ancient 787 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:09,960 civilization and that skeleton is made 788 00:42:16,849 --> 00:42:13,170 up of highly precise granite and 789 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:16,859 limestone and diorite blocks and and so 790 00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:20,730 actually trying to determine what kind 791 00:42:26,839 --> 00:42:23,400 of what the intelligence was behind it 792 00:42:29,690 --> 00:42:26,849 what they or the flesh and blood and the 793 00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:29,700 clothing looked like that would actually 794 00:42:35,690 --> 00:42:33,180 overlay this civilization or overlay 795 00:42:38,029 --> 00:42:35,700 this is a skeleton of a civilization 796 00:42:40,339 --> 00:42:38,039 that's it's always a huge interest to me 797 00:42:44,029 --> 00:42:40,349 because when you look at say the Great 798 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:44,039 Pyramid and and the precision of the 799 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:45,930 Great Pyramid and I think you talked a 800 00:42:51,740 --> 00:42:47,970 little bit about that too 801 00:42:54,799 --> 00:42:51,750 Mannu last night and that was a really 802 00:42:58,910 --> 00:42:54,809 fascinating discussion for me because he 803 00:43:01,609 --> 00:42:58,920 touched it just hit me on so many so 804 00:43:04,849 --> 00:43:01,619 many nerve points that discussion 805 00:43:08,269 --> 00:43:04,859 because it was the precision that that 806 00:43:11,059 --> 00:43:08,279 spoke to me and and then the 807 00:43:17,150 --> 00:43:11,069 contribution that will in Flinders 808 00:43:21,970 --> 00:43:17,160 Petrie made to this discussion back in 809 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:21,980 the 1880s is unparalleled anywhere 810 00:43:32,319 --> 00:43:26,400 because he he'd was a a a practical guy 811 00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:32,329 like yourself like me and and he has his 812 00:43:41,450 --> 00:43:37,920 learning of of the monuments was through 813 00:43:44,329 --> 00:43:41,460 taking measurements and of course his 814 00:43:49,940 --> 00:43:44,339 father was an engineer he was a 815 00:43:52,009 --> 00:43:49,950 self-educated surveyor and so he he had 816 00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:52,019 a technical background and he applied it 817 00:43:58,279 --> 00:43:54,319 when he went to Egypt and actually 818 00:44:00,499 --> 00:43:58,289 uncovered some remarkable features I 819 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:00,509 mean if you talk about precision and you 820 00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:02,090 know he the 821 00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:03,680 it has always been a huge fascination 822 00:44:12,030 --> 00:44:07,730 for people but we have to consider that 823 00:44:14,770 --> 00:44:12,040 you have a structure where they chose 824 00:44:19,180 --> 00:44:14,780 they thought it was necessary to 825 00:44:21,580 --> 00:44:19,190 construct a a downward shaft or 826 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:21,590 passageway called the descending passage 827 00:44:29,710 --> 00:44:25,760 and over a 150 feet of this passageway 828 00:44:33,550 --> 00:44:29,720 it is in alignment within 20 thousandths 829 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:33,560 of an inch slit Ria's which is a the 830 00:44:39,490 --> 00:44:37,370 thickness of a thumbnail of being 831 00:44:41,170 --> 00:44:39,500 absolutely straight and and then of 832 00:44:43,410 --> 00:44:41,180 course his measurements of the the 833 00:44:45,820 --> 00:44:43,420 remaining casing blocks they were 834 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:45,830 manufactured to within ten thousandths 835 00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:48,050 of an inch half the thickness of a 836 00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:52,750 thumbnail and all of these kind of 837 00:45:00,880 --> 00:44:58,970 markers spoke to me that the paint the 838 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:00,890 builders of the pyramids whether they 839 00:45:05,710 --> 00:45:02,450 were the ancient Egyptians are an 840 00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:05,720 earlier civilization they they were 841 00:45:14,170 --> 00:45:10,910 actually demonstrating that the state of 842 00:45:17,050 --> 00:45:14,180 the art that they had at that time they 843 00:45:21,610 --> 00:45:17,060 had that capability this was this was 844 00:45:23,710 --> 00:45:21,620 not a a coincident a coincidence and 845 00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:23,720 what the in what they created with the 846 00:45:28,510 --> 00:45:25,280 Great Pyramid and a lot of other 847 00:45:31,410 --> 00:45:28,520 artifacts and in Egypt to take me to 848 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:31,420 that moment if you will Chris where 849 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:35,210 you're you're in your professional life 850 00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:37,970 you know life is good take me to that 851 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:39,950 moment where you just went you know what 852 00:45:45,250 --> 00:45:43,130 enough is enough that you know what was 853 00:45:49,690 --> 00:45:45,260 that moment where he just okay I'm gonna 854 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:49,700 dedicate a huge portion of my life in my 855 00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:52,850 future to to getting to the bottom of 856 00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:55,040 this there was a moment where you just 857 00:45:59,950 --> 00:45:56,960 made that left-hand turn what was it 858 00:46:01,840 --> 00:45:59,960 there's actually several moments one of 859 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:01,850 them I woke up early in the morning 860 00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:05,810 there was a Sunday morning and and I had 861 00:46:10,780 --> 00:46:08,510 a vision of the the pyramid with the 862 00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:10,790 shafts and they seemed like there was 863 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:13,310 energy streaming out of the out of these 864 00:46:16,990 --> 00:46:15,170 that these shafts and 865 00:46:20,980 --> 00:46:17,000 the Great Pyramid and then the 866 00:46:23,069 --> 00:46:20,990 hieroglyphs that were kind of written on 867 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:23,079 the side of it it was all in like four 868 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:26,450 fluorescent green so you know that was a 869 00:46:33,339 --> 00:46:30,770 remarkable wild moment for me and then 870 00:46:39,309 --> 00:46:33,349 the the next one came but when I was 871 00:46:41,319 --> 00:46:39,319 immersed in in in Tompkins book and it 872 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:41,329 just struck me like oh look the light 873 00:46:48,430 --> 00:46:46,250 bulb went off over my head that energy 874 00:46:50,859 --> 00:46:48,440 was actually coming through the pyramid 875 00:46:54,010 --> 00:46:50,869 and being channeled to the outside and 876 00:47:01,150 --> 00:46:54,020 that energy was coming from the earth 877 00:47:06,819 --> 00:47:01,160 and and so at that moment I was I was 878 00:47:10,299 --> 00:47:06,829 just I entered a space that had 879 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:10,309 surrounded me for decades and after that 880 00:47:17,740 --> 00:47:14,770 as I tried to determine just exactly 881 00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:17,750 what what this machine was doing because 882 00:47:27,940 --> 00:47:23,839 ultimately you know the how successful 883 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:27,950 you are in in your research it depends 884 00:47:32,829 --> 00:47:30,410 on what kind of a foundation you base 885 00:47:36,490 --> 00:47:32,839 your research on and that is basically a 886 00:47:39,370 --> 00:47:36,500 kind of a your ideology if you will or 887 00:47:42,789 --> 00:47:39,380 your your belief and I was convinced 888 00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:42,799 that what we had here was a structure 889 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:45,920 that was built to the with the precision 890 00:47:53,289 --> 00:47:49,010 of a machine only on a scale of acres 891 00:47:55,420 --> 00:47:53,299 and and to illustrate that if you take 892 00:47:58,180 --> 00:47:55,430 like the side one side of the Great 893 00:48:02,049 --> 00:47:58,190 Pyramid which i think is about 755 feet 894 00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:02,059 you have and then say you scale that 895 00:48:10,660 --> 00:48:08,480 down to the size of a machine and and 896 00:48:13,390 --> 00:48:10,670 and perhaps you're laying down a machine 897 00:48:16,539 --> 00:48:13,400 base and the and you want to make a 898 00:48:22,109 --> 00:48:16,549 precision base if you have a machine 899 00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:22,119 base of about 20 feet and you want to 900 00:48:28,450 --> 00:48:26,510 build the same precision proportionally 901 00:48:30,910 --> 00:48:28,460 that you see in the Great Pyramid 902 00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:30,920 that machine base would have to be flat 903 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:34,790 within like to ten thousandths of an 904 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:39,490 inch that is point two zero zero zero 905 00:48:45,460 --> 00:48:43,010 two it's insane it's insane as you say 906 00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:45,470 yeah and that's that is not word that is 907 00:48:52,329 --> 00:48:49,280 not required on a machine basis today 908 00:48:56,530 --> 00:48:52,339 generally they have specifications where 909 00:48:58,750 --> 00:48:56,540 depending on the use of the machine the 910 00:49:03,130 --> 00:48:58,760 requirements may be like two ten 911 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:03,140 thousandths of an inch per foot not over 912 00:49:08,740 --> 00:49:06,050 twenty feet and so you know they're 913 00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:08,750 great parameter this way talk about it 914 00:49:12,310 --> 00:49:09,790 all the time 915 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:12,320 was leveled within seven eighths of an 916 00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:15,890 inch over thirteen anchors and so that 917 00:49:21,609 --> 00:49:18,800 that makes a guy like me guy like you 918 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:21,619 and a lot of others just sit up and take 919 00:49:28,030 --> 00:49:25,130 notice because it's it's like wow why 920 00:49:30,550 --> 00:49:28,040 why were they doing it it does that's 921 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:30,560 right it doesn't make any sense and you 922 00:49:36,130 --> 00:49:33,890 brought up one of the things that I I 923 00:49:38,980 --> 00:49:36,140 bring it up over and over again Chris 924 00:49:42,130 --> 00:49:38,990 because I want this audience to really 925 00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:42,140 firmly understand and grasp what is 926 00:49:48,430 --> 00:49:46,310 going on here and you can talk about the 927 00:49:50,170 --> 00:49:48,440 pyramid and look at it and and the 928 00:49:52,030 --> 00:49:50,180 layers and the steps and to not million 929 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:52,040 blocks you could talk the Grand Gallery 930 00:50:01,200 --> 00:49:55,930 go go for it but it's that that 931 00:50:07,150 --> 00:50:01,210 ascending passageway that that which was 932 00:50:09,849 --> 00:50:07,160 either built first or or as the pyramid 933 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:09,859 was being construction constructed that 934 00:50:17,290 --> 00:50:12,770 part doesn't matter what matters is it 935 00:50:20,740 --> 00:50:17,300 was through 150 to 200 feet of solid 936 00:50:23,970 --> 00:50:20,750 rock utterly perfectly straight and 937 00:50:26,980 --> 00:50:23,980 square that would require precision 938 00:50:29,890 --> 00:50:26,990 instruments that even today we would 939 00:50:31,390 --> 00:50:29,900 struggle with and we probably wouldn't 940 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:31,400 even do it because it wouldn't be 941 00:50:39,130 --> 00:50:35,210 necessary for anything and and that that 942 00:50:41,260 --> 00:50:39,140 needs to be realized and it gets lost in 943 00:50:44,130 --> 00:50:41,270 the translation 944 00:50:47,470 --> 00:50:44,140 yes I think from a a construction 945 00:50:51,820 --> 00:50:47,480 perspective you those kind of tolerances 946 00:50:54,609 --> 00:50:51,830 are unnecessary for precision 947 00:51:00,180 --> 00:50:54,619 instruments then you you would find them 948 00:51:03,010 --> 00:51:00,190 necessary and and so essentially what 949 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:03,020 there are like two two conditions maybe 950 00:51:08,859 --> 00:51:06,170 three that govern how you actually 951 00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:08,869 manufacture something and what the 952 00:51:19,060 --> 00:51:13,310 results of the work now one is something 953 00:51:22,180 --> 00:51:19,070 is so important that you if you don't 954 00:51:26,380 --> 00:51:22,190 have machines to actually create those 955 00:51:28,750 --> 00:51:26,390 very precise surfaces you still have to 956 00:51:32,590 --> 00:51:28,760 create them anyway because of the 957 00:51:35,940 --> 00:51:32,600 importance of the of the artifact the 958 00:51:38,650 --> 00:51:35,950 other condition that would exist is that 959 00:51:43,410 --> 00:51:38,660 the machines that you have and are 960 00:51:47,740 --> 00:51:43,420 applying to create these artifacts a 961 00:51:52,540 --> 00:51:47,750 capable of no less precision and and 962 00:51:56,380 --> 00:51:52,550 that is what we have found today over 963 00:51:58,990 --> 00:51:56,390 the the life of manufacturing 964 00:52:02,550 --> 00:51:59,000 development since the Industrial 965 00:52:06,010 --> 00:52:02,560 Revolution where the machines today 966 00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,020 capable of greater precision that even 967 00:52:10,570 --> 00:52:08,240 those parts of a product that you are 968 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:10,580 manufacturing but don't require the 969 00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,010 precision have that precision anyway 970 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:15,200 because the machine is capable of 971 00:52:21,330 --> 00:52:19,130 nothing less you want it but oh I'm 972 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:21,340 sorry did I interrupt no I was just 973 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:24,890 does that make sense yeah exactly and 974 00:52:30,370 --> 00:52:27,410 you what are the things that I've always 975 00:52:34,210 --> 00:52:30,380 appreciated about use you you walk 976 00:52:36,900 --> 00:52:34,220 around with a machinist square and a 977 00:52:40,090 --> 00:52:36,910 level and a laser in your pocket if I 978 00:52:41,970 --> 00:52:40,100 like Indiana Jones right you know you're 979 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:41,980 whipping it out all the time and and 980 00:52:48,310 --> 00:52:44,930 checking these things and because yours 981 00:52:50,650 --> 00:52:48,320 is as amazed as as everybody else but 982 00:52:53,230 --> 00:52:50,660 that's the way you look at it and now 983 00:52:53,690 --> 00:52:53,240 we're gonna head towards a break I but I 984 00:52:57,650 --> 00:52:53,700 want to 985 00:52:59,840 --> 00:52:57,660 ask you one basic question that that 986 00:53:02,630 --> 00:52:59,850 needs to be addressed at least for me 987 00:53:04,730 --> 00:53:02,640 personally when we look at like the 988 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:04,740 walls in the descending passageway or 989 00:53:12,490 --> 00:53:09,210 the surfaces of different blocks and 990 00:53:18,380 --> 00:53:12,500 construction and walls where they are 991 00:53:22,850 --> 00:53:18,390 utterly flat and when we are told that 992 00:53:28,510 --> 00:53:22,860 they used round stone ball hammers right 993 00:53:34,430 --> 00:53:30,200 yeah right 994 00:53:38,540 --> 00:53:34,440 that how how do you get a billiard table 995 00:53:43,340 --> 00:53:38,550 smooth tabletop with those kinds of 996 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:43,350 instruments I I don't understand what 997 00:53:49,790 --> 00:53:45,570 they are trying to convince me of I I 998 00:53:52,970 --> 00:53:49,800 just don't see it well in the-- the 999 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:52,980 descending passage the excavated portion 1000 00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:56,370 where they actually cut the the bedrock 1001 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:01,200 out the surfaces are straight but 1002 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:04,410 they're not necessarily that precise in 1003 00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:08,850 terms of smoothness of finish in fact 1004 00:54:15,020 --> 00:54:11,520 they're pretty rough now the constructed 1005 00:54:20,030 --> 00:54:15,030 portion where they laid blade blocks of 1006 00:54:21,890 --> 00:54:20,040 limestone to to build the the descending 1007 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:21,900 passage and all the other passages and 1008 00:54:30,590 --> 00:54:25,650 internal changes those are more precise 1009 00:54:38,090 --> 00:54:30,600 and and flatter and smoother than the 1010 00:54:40,550 --> 00:54:38,100 the excavated portion so as far as as 1011 00:54:43,730 --> 00:54:40,560 far as the the construction of the 1012 00:54:47,060 --> 00:54:43,740 descending passage it it hadn't had a 1013 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:47,070 particular function but it didn't have I 1014 00:54:53,170 --> 00:54:50,370 didn't have the requirements of a like a 1015 00:54:55,690 --> 00:54:53,180 smooth billiard table or an inspection 1016 00:54:58,070 --> 00:54:55,700 table that you would find in a an 1017 00:55:02,240 --> 00:54:58,080 inspection department in a manufacturing 1018 00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:02,250 plant but but I know you understand 1019 00:55:05,930 --> 00:55:04,110 where I'm going with this 1020 00:55:08,030 --> 00:55:05,940 when you look at and I'm 1021 00:55:10,780 --> 00:55:08,040 talking about point your finger in a 1022 00:55:15,470 --> 00:55:10,790 direction and you're gonna see something 1023 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:15,480 that you know that has these smooth 1024 00:55:21,230 --> 00:55:19,170 finishes and and you don't pound your 1025 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:21,240 way to a smooth finish 1026 00:55:27,260 --> 00:55:25,290 you know the obelisk the the granite 1027 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:27,270 blocks that are lining the walls or the 1028 00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:30,450 King's Chamber or even you know Ramses 1029 00:55:37,250 --> 00:55:33,510 the statues when it doesn't just those 1030 00:55:39,020 --> 00:55:37,260 weren't done with with stone hammers 1031 00:55:41,690 --> 00:55:39,030 they just weren't you you're not 1032 00:55:43,700 --> 00:55:41,700 leveling and and smoothing and rounding 1033 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:43,710 these surfaces with those it's it's as 1034 00:55:48,589 --> 00:55:44,970 an impossibility 1035 00:55:52,460 --> 00:55:48,599 no absolutely not but there are there 1036 00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:52,470 are examples on my website that your 1037 00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:55,440 listeners too can go and look at if they 1038 00:56:03,290 --> 00:55:59,280 go to Giza power calm and go to the 1039 00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:03,300 articles page there's one there is 1040 00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:08,160 called the Machine granite of ancient 1041 00:56:15,650 --> 00:56:11,040 Egypt it's an article in there and if 1042 00:56:22,089 --> 00:56:15,660 you scroll down on that page you go down 1043 00:56:28,849 --> 00:56:22,099 to a place where I'm in the Seraphim and 1044 00:56:31,220 --> 00:56:28,859 it's exhibit 27 and you see me inside 1045 00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:31,230 one of the boxes in the Serra p.m. and 1046 00:56:39,319 --> 00:56:34,710 I'm using a square it's a toolmaker 1047 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:39,329 square that was as precise within 110 1048 00:56:47,079 --> 00:56:43,170 thousandths of an inch so you know that 1049 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:47,089 a lot of the conversation about that 1050 00:56:53,630 --> 00:56:50,450 crafting these artifacts in Egypt aisle 1051 00:56:56,599 --> 00:56:53,640 revolves around the cutting tools and 1052 00:57:01,040 --> 00:56:56,609 what kind of cutting tools they used and 1053 00:57:03,380 --> 00:57:01,050 of course my argument has been that the 1054 00:57:06,380 --> 00:57:03,390 tools really don't exist in the 1055 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:06,390 archaeological record to explain them 1056 00:57:12,740 --> 00:57:09,290 around they're incapable of doing so but 1057 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:12,750 also lacking in the archaeological 1058 00:57:18,990 --> 00:57:16,290 record the inspection instruments 1059 00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:19,000 necessary to check 1060 00:57:25,860 --> 00:57:22,240 these surfaces and the geometries of 1061 00:57:30,050 --> 00:57:25,870 them to make sure that they are indeed 1062 00:57:33,330 --> 00:57:30,060 to two specifications flat and straight 1063 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:33,340 flattening straight square and square so 1064 00:57:40,050 --> 00:57:37,570 you have in the on that exhibit 26 of 1065 00:57:42,570 --> 00:57:40,060 the left hand left hand side you see me 1066 00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:42,580 holding that square up against the 1067 00:57:48,060 --> 00:57:45,520 underside of the lid right right 1068 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:48,070 and you see the reflection in the 1069 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:50,850 granite yes you know there's no 1070 00:57:55,710 --> 00:57:53,410 aberrations in that reflection and you 1071 00:57:58,050 --> 00:57:55,720 see that it's dead square now you go 1072 00:58:01,920 --> 00:57:58,060 across to the other photograph on the 1073 00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:01,930 right and it's the opposite wall and the 1074 00:58:06,090 --> 00:58:03,760 same thing is pressed up against the 1075 00:58:10,730 --> 00:58:06,100 underside of the the granite lid and 1076 00:58:14,780 --> 00:58:10,740 down the surface of the inside wall so 1077 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:14,790 this this actually tells us volumes 1078 00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:18,250 about what what they were trying to 1079 00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:21,520 accomplish because in order for those 1080 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:24,720 conditions to exist those two walls 1081 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:29,770 opposite each other by around six feet 1082 00:58:35,250 --> 00:58:33,010 or something like that across they would 1083 00:58:37,770 --> 00:58:35,260 have to be perfectly parallel with each 1084 00:58:41,130 --> 00:58:37,780 other in order for that condition to 1085 00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:41,140 exist look we need to take a break right 1086 00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:42,790 here Chris will pick up right where 1087 00:58:46,740 --> 00:58:45,040 we're leaving off when we come back our 1088 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:46,750 guest tonight Christopher Dunn night two 1089 00:58:50,750 --> 00:58:49,210 of our Egypt week here on fade to black 1090 00:58:52,950 --> 00:58:50,760 it's gonna be one of those conversations 1091 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:52,960 buckle up everybody it's going to be 1092 00:58:55,500 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01:03:59,620 --> 01:03:57,020 gonna go see my church I guess tonight 1191 01:04:02,800 --> 01:03:59,630 Christopher done yes he is finally here 1192 01:04:05,950 --> 01:04:02,810 it's night two of our Egypt week and 1193 01:04:10,690 --> 01:04:05,960 fade to black and before the break we 1194 01:04:13,930 --> 01:04:10,700 were talking about these black granite 1195 01:04:16,740 --> 01:04:13,940 sarcophagus and the pictures a Chris of 1196 01:04:20,170 --> 01:04:16,750 you that have been posted up on Twitter 1197 01:04:23,950 --> 01:04:20,180 with the toolmaker square just 1198 01:04:27,610 --> 01:04:23,960 absolutely epic it's the best but I 1199 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:27,620 wanted to make a quick comment a couple 1200 01:04:32,190 --> 01:04:29,210 of years ago I'm in New York and we go 1201 01:04:35,620 --> 01:04:32,200 to the Met read and I and they had a 1202 01:04:38,590 --> 01:04:35,630 black granite sarcophagus there and it 1203 01:04:40,510 --> 01:04:38,600 was dated 2500 BC and I don't know how 1204 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:40,520 many tons at Wade you know it's 1205 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:43,130 ginormous you know probably five foot 1206 01:04:48,460 --> 01:04:45,770 six foot by 10 foot you know five foot 1207 01:04:51,190 --> 01:04:48,470 high you know giant box and I go up in 1208 01:04:53,980 --> 01:04:51,200 and what most don't realize if you've 1209 01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:53,990 never had this experience that you have 1210 01:04:59,740 --> 01:04:57,440 had you go up and you touch it the 1211 01:05:03,250 --> 01:04:59,750 sarcophagus you knock on it and you 1212 01:05:06,730 --> 01:05:03,260 realize how cold it is to the touch how 1213 01:05:09,370 --> 01:05:06,740 dense it is how hard it is and then you 1214 01:05:11,590 --> 01:05:09,380 look at the inscriptions and you back up 1215 01:05:14,410 --> 01:05:11,600 and you just cover that it's impossible 1216 01:05:16,270 --> 01:05:14,420 and right after that read and I walk 1217 01:05:19,450 --> 01:05:16,280 over to this display case and they had a 1218 01:05:22,300 --> 01:05:19,460 little Stella it was about two three 1219 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:22,310 feet tall with the beautiful 1220 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:24,410 hieroglyphics on it and in the date 1221 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:27,290 again you know 2000 2500 BC and next to 1222 01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:30,170 the Stella they actually had the 1223 01:05:37,060 --> 01:05:34,640 audacity had the met to say and these 1224 01:05:38,860 --> 01:05:37,070 are the tools that were used to inscribe 1225 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:38,870 the Stella and you look down and it's 1226 01:05:47,350 --> 01:05:41,810 like this little copper pick little tiny 1227 01:05:49,270 --> 01:05:47,360 pick and a stone a stone and and these 1228 01:05:52,060 --> 01:05:49,280 are the tools and I'm looking by so I 1229 01:05:55,030 --> 01:05:52,070 immediately called John Anthony West I 1230 01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:55,040 got him on the phone and I said you know 1231 01:06:03,580 --> 01:05:58,130 I'm looking at this stuff John and you 1232 01:06:05,890 --> 01:06:03,590 know and to hear him laugh with me as we 1233 01:06:07,310 --> 01:06:05,900 were talking about these things about it 1234 01:06:10,490 --> 01:06:07,320 just being in power 1235 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:10,500 and it's truly the case you need to 1236 01:06:19,490 --> 01:06:16,490 actually see one of these megalithic 1237 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:19,500 sarcophagus or you know and feel what 1238 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:22,770 black granite and red granite feels like 1239 01:06:27,590 --> 01:06:25,370 and how dense it is to understand that 1240 01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:27,600 we're getting into the realm of being 1241 01:06:32,540 --> 01:06:31,080 just impossible to do with the tools 1242 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:32,550 that they are telling us they did it 1243 01:06:37,250 --> 01:06:34,890 with oh absolutely 1244 01:06:40,310 --> 01:06:37,260 my first experience of that is rather 1245 01:06:44,780 --> 01:06:40,320 amusing actually it was the first time 1246 01:06:46,610 --> 01:06:44,790 that I traveled to Egypt in 1986 and my 1247 01:06:51,290 --> 01:06:46,620 article advanced machining in ancient 1248 01:06:55,820 --> 01:06:51,300 Egypt was published in 1984 so I threw a 1249 01:07:02,330 --> 01:06:55,830 few copies in in my in my bag and I went 1250 01:07:04,220 --> 01:07:02,340 to the Museum in Cairo and and I talked 1251 01:07:08,620 --> 01:07:04,230 to one of the one of the curators there 1252 01:07:13,460 --> 01:07:08,630 and I gave him a copy of the article I 1253 01:07:15,590 --> 01:07:13,470 saw and so I thought yeah well maybe be 1254 01:07:18,590 --> 01:07:15,600 interested in reading it he looked at it 1255 01:07:20,750 --> 01:07:18,600 and you know his he sniffed asthma he 1256 01:07:22,490 --> 01:07:20,760 sniffed his nose up in here ago turned 1257 01:07:24,860 --> 01:07:22,500 his nose up opened a drawer in his desk 1258 01:07:25,370 --> 01:07:24,870 and just flung it in the desk and said 1259 01:07:28,820 --> 01:07:25,380 thank you 1260 01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:28,830 and then what are the a geologists that 1261 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:31,890 was roaming the museum I I was talking 1262 01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:34,410 to him I said well you know you have 1263 01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:37,920 these unbelievable monuments out on the 1264 01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:41,280 Giza Plateau what about the tools that 1265 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:43,440 were used to create them and he says oh 1266 01:07:48,140 --> 01:07:46,290 no problem I can show you those and they 1267 01:07:52,190 --> 01:07:48,150 eat tucker tucker's upstairs in the 1268 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:52,200 Cairo Museum and and get to a tool case 1269 01:07:57,590 --> 01:07:54,810 and they're there in the tool case just 1270 01:08:00,980 --> 01:07:57,600 exactly what you described some copper 1271 01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:00,990 picks copper chisels and and I said it 1272 01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:05,520 is this all you have I mean that is not 1273 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:07,440 possible what about cutting granite he 1274 01:08:14,420 --> 01:08:11,850 says oh he said you need to go to aswan 1275 01:08:16,490 --> 01:08:14,430 if you if you want to learn how how the 1276 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:16,500 ancient Egyptians quarried granite you 1277 01:08:23,660 --> 01:08:20,130 need to go to a swan and so I said okay 1278 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:23,670 so he he took me over to the travel 1279 01:08:30,410 --> 01:08:27,810 agent and made sure that I bought two 1280 01:08:35,959 --> 01:08:30,420 tickets to fly to us one and that which 1281 01:08:38,450 --> 01:08:35,969 I did the the following day and and so 1282 01:08:41,059 --> 01:08:38,460 the explanation for how they acquired 1283 01:08:45,709 --> 01:08:41,069 how the quarter the granite was that 1284 01:08:47,390 --> 01:08:45,719 they cut these slots around the around 1285 01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:47,400 the quarry around the bedrock and then 1286 01:08:51,950 --> 01:08:49,679 they inserted one of matches and then 1287 01:08:54,530 --> 01:08:51,960 sawed them with water and eventually the 1288 01:08:58,760 --> 01:08:54,540 rock split the interesting thing about 1289 01:09:00,410 --> 01:08:58,770 that was that hmm and there yeah when I 1290 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:00,420 got back to Cairo and I was roaming 1291 01:09:05,809 --> 01:09:03,210 around khafre's pyramid on the Giza 1292 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:05,819 Plateau and on the south side of kafir 1293 01:09:10,519 --> 01:09:08,489 you've got all these granite casing 1294 01:09:14,450 --> 01:09:10,529 stones that have been stripped after the 1295 01:09:18,649 --> 01:09:14,460 pyramid and the tool marks that they are 1296 01:09:20,930 --> 01:09:18,659 on on the stone were identical to the 1297 01:09:24,260 --> 01:09:20,940 tool the tool marks the slots that you 1298 01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:24,270 see it asked one and so he put two and 1299 01:09:30,620 --> 01:09:28,049 two together you'd like well they 1300 01:09:33,470 --> 01:09:30,630 wouldn't quarry something I'll use those 1301 01:09:36,019 --> 01:09:33,480 tools to acquire something transport 1302 01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:36,029 than 500 miles and then proceeded to use 1303 01:09:42,079 --> 01:09:38,310 the same methods to strip them off the 1304 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:42,089 pyramid and then I learned a little more 1305 01:09:50,570 --> 01:09:46,170 and I started to look at Roman quarry 1306 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:50,580 methods and you see the Roman two tool 1307 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:52,290 marks and they're identical to what you 1308 01:09:59,360 --> 01:09:55,650 see at Aswan on what you see on the Giza 1309 01:10:02,780 --> 01:09:59,370 Plateau and so there it's already in in 1310 01:10:06,129 --> 01:10:02,790 the record that the the Giza Plateau was 1311 01:10:11,629 --> 01:10:06,139 used as a huge quarry are you suggesting 1312 01:10:16,610 --> 01:10:11,639 right and so this would suggest the 1313 01:10:18,979 --> 01:10:16,620 Romans had steel and and now steel okay 1314 01:10:23,959 --> 01:10:18,989 I can back up and go okay we can we can 1315 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:23,969 have that conversation but not at 2700 1316 01:10:28,189 --> 01:10:26,489 BC we can't have that conversation it's 1317 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:28,199 it's two different conversations there 1318 01:10:33,470 --> 01:10:32,250 are almost two thousand years apart yes 1319 01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:33,480 yesterday 1320 01:10:41,300 --> 01:10:37,910 and but the interesting thing is is that 1321 01:10:43,070 --> 01:10:41,310 they are claiming that that those marks 1322 01:10:46,700 --> 01:10:43,080 were the marks of the ancient Egyptians 1323 01:10:49,010 --> 01:10:46,710 right which it seems clear to me that 1324 01:10:51,500 --> 01:10:49,020 they're not ancient Egyptian quarry 1325 01:10:53,930 --> 01:10:51,510 marks because well you look at the 1326 01:10:56,270 --> 01:10:53,940 around the quarry look at the unfinished 1327 01:10:59,120 --> 01:10:56,280 obelisk in the the they're totally 1328 01:11:00,800 --> 01:10:59,130 different quarry marks so the Romans 1329 01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:00,810 were quarrying a last one and they were 1330 01:11:07,940 --> 01:11:04,880 quarrying at on the Giza Plateau - and 1331 01:11:11,330 --> 01:11:07,950 selecting stones and using them in their 1332 01:11:16,580 --> 01:11:11,340 buildings obviously now we're talking 1333 01:11:18,890 --> 01:11:16,590 about it's 20 years since the Giza power 1334 01:11:22,010 --> 01:11:18,900 plant was published you've been doing 1335 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:22,020 this research in inter you know serious 1336 01:11:30,500 --> 01:11:24,770 interest going back to of course 1977 1337 01:11:34,610 --> 01:11:30,510 how or has your opinion changed over the 1338 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:34,620 years where are you today are you even 1339 01:11:41,690 --> 01:11:37,050 more extreme in your thought and 1340 01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:41,700 methodology from you know 1980 to now or 1341 01:11:49,420 --> 01:11:45,840 has it changed at all it's broadened 1342 01:11:55,370 --> 01:11:49,430 quite a bit I think the you know my my 1343 01:11:58,460 --> 01:11:55,380 fundamental belief an understanding that 1344 01:12:02,090 --> 01:11:58,470 the basis on which I I base the book on 1345 01:12:06,110 --> 01:12:02,100 and my research aren't as far as the the 1346 01:12:11,060 --> 01:12:06,120 Great Pyramid being a machine that the 1347 01:12:15,770 --> 01:12:11,070 produced energy or transduced energy is 1348 01:12:19,580 --> 01:12:15,780 still solid and and that hasn't changed 1349 01:12:23,330 --> 01:12:19,590 as far as the broad function of the 1350 01:12:28,820 --> 01:12:23,340 Great Pyramid that has been enhanced a 1351 01:12:35,420 --> 01:12:28,830 little bit how some can well it it gets 1352 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:35,430 into the the effects of acoustics and 1353 01:12:45,879 --> 01:12:39,410 how people respond to an acoustic 1354 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:48,589 whether they are pleased with a 1355 01:12:53,899 --> 01:12:52,170 particular frequency or collection of 1356 01:12:57,109 --> 01:12:53,909 frequencies whether it's harm is 1357 01:13:00,379 --> 01:12:57,119 harmonious with them and then what those 1358 01:13:05,060 --> 01:13:00,389 what those harmonious effects have on 1359 01:13:07,729 --> 01:13:05,070 the body particularly the brain and how 1360 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:07,739 it would affect their mood and state of 1361 01:13:12,850 --> 01:13:10,050 mind and I think that that is a 1362 01:13:17,509 --> 01:13:12,860 byproduct of the process where you have 1363 01:13:23,330 --> 01:13:17,519 really it's a holistic device that serve 1364 01:13:26,540 --> 01:13:23,340 more than one purpose the the the prime 1365 01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:26,550 function of it was to actually harmonize 1366 01:13:32,959 --> 01:13:30,480 the planet to harmonize the place and to 1367 01:13:37,759 --> 01:13:32,969 draw energy from the plate so to 1368 01:13:39,470 --> 01:13:37,769 alleviate earthquakes and then because 1369 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:39,480 they were harmonized in the place and 1370 01:13:46,250 --> 01:13:41,489 they're doing it in such a way that was 1371 01:13:48,350 --> 01:13:46,260 it in harmony with the human body with 1372 01:13:54,759 --> 01:13:48,360 the the Europe the earth of the universe 1373 01:13:58,669 --> 01:13:54,769 itself then that the it wasn't a machine 1374 01:14:01,279 --> 01:13:58,679 that was jarring to the soul or the 1375 01:14:05,330 --> 01:14:01,289 spirit it was a machine that gave people 1376 01:14:10,759 --> 01:14:05,340 comfort and a degree of happiness 1377 01:14:15,740 --> 01:14:10,769 I mean architecture that we live we live 1378 01:14:20,029 --> 01:14:15,750 with it gives us you know it connects us 1379 01:14:23,089 --> 01:14:20,039 with with the community and and such is 1380 01:14:25,580 --> 01:14:23,099 the Great Pyramid even now as it's not 1381 01:14:29,140 --> 01:14:25,590 not functioning to its capacities for 1382 01:14:34,759 --> 01:14:29,150 capacity it's still harmonizes and 1383 01:14:36,830 --> 01:14:34,769 gathers people to experience being in 1384 01:14:38,990 --> 01:14:36,840 the Pyramid of being around the pyramid 1385 01:14:43,390 --> 01:14:39,000 because it's definitely a very high 1386 01:14:46,870 --> 01:14:43,400 energy spot yeah you bring up one of the 1387 01:14:51,319 --> 01:14:46,880 fascinating points for me and that is 1388 01:14:55,959 --> 01:14:51,329 for 40 you know pitched which is the 1389 01:15:00,899 --> 01:14:55,969 note a and it is tuned 1390 01:15:03,370 --> 01:15:00,909 to aid 440 and that that frequency 1391 01:15:06,430 --> 01:15:03,380 pretty much no matter where you are in 1392 01:15:11,770 --> 01:15:06,440 the pyramid will resonate through there 1393 01:15:13,509 --> 01:15:11,780 and even amplify and through not only 1394 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:13,519 the passage weights but through the 1395 01:15:15,879 --> 01:15:15,170 chambers and through the individual 1396 01:15:18,850 --> 01:15:15,889 rooms 1397 01:15:21,609 --> 01:15:18,860 well that would indicate an engineering 1398 01:15:26,979 --> 01:15:21,619 design concept for everything to 1399 01:15:29,739 --> 01:15:26,989 function as one piece yes I mean the the 1400 01:15:32,799 --> 01:15:29,749 whole the whole pyramid is tuned like of 1401 01:15:35,950 --> 01:15:32,809 a very fine musical instrument right and 1402 01:15:38,649 --> 01:15:35,960 and the point I made in my book was that 1403 01:15:44,020 --> 01:15:38,659 there are a few pieces missing so you do 1404 01:15:45,819 --> 01:15:44,030 have energy that if the I describe the 1405 01:15:49,839 --> 01:15:45,829 the Great Pyramid is a coupled 1406 01:15:52,270 --> 01:15:49,849 oscillator in other words a device that 1407 01:15:54,750 --> 01:15:52,280 the device coupled oscillator is a 1408 01:15:58,629 --> 01:15:54,760 device that if it's attached to a larger 1409 01:16:01,509 --> 01:15:58,639 vibrating object as long as that larger 1410 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:01,519 vibrating object continues to produce 1411 01:16:08,020 --> 01:16:04,489 energy or vibration than the oscillator 1412 01:16:11,290 --> 01:16:08,030 which is which resonates with it will 1413 01:16:13,779 --> 01:16:11,300 draw power from it and and so it's my 1414 01:16:15,729 --> 01:16:13,789 contention it's been my contention since 1415 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:15,739 I wrote the book that the Great Pyramid 1416 01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:17,170 and the other pyramids are actually 1417 01:16:20,830 --> 01:16:19,280 coupled oscillators with the earth 1418 01:16:24,730 --> 01:16:20,840 they're attached to the earth they have 1419 01:16:25,950 --> 01:16:24,740 a relationship not just physically but 1420 01:16:29,919 --> 01:16:25,960 [Music] 1421 01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:29,929 dimensionally with the earth and and 1422 01:16:35,859 --> 01:16:32,719 then when you get into the interior of 1423 01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:35,869 course all the pyramids have an acoustic 1424 01:16:42,279 --> 01:16:40,159 kind of resonance to them the the Great 1425 01:16:45,790 --> 01:16:42,289 Pyramid has been studied more than the 1426 01:16:48,069 --> 01:16:45,800 other I mean people are still going over 1427 01:16:50,399 --> 01:16:48,079 over it with a fine-tooth comb trying to 1428 01:16:54,879 --> 01:16:50,409 glean more information out of it but 1429 01:16:58,109 --> 01:16:54,889 dimensionally and even measurably with 1430 01:17:01,660 --> 01:16:58,119 instruments it is a very finely tuned 1431 01:17:05,260 --> 01:17:01,670 acoustic device now 1432 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:05,270 my I would I would say that most of our 1433 01:17:08,859 --> 01:17:07,010 audience has read the geese of power 1434 01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:08,869 plant and if they haven't and the 1435 01:17:13,390 --> 01:17:10,730 stragglers out there they need to go and 1436 01:17:15,939 --> 01:17:13,400 get the book and and and read it so we 1437 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:15,949 I'm not gonna visit the specifics of the 1438 01:17:22,510 --> 01:17:20,090 book but certainly there's been a lot of 1439 01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:22,520 research that has come to light over the 1440 01:17:26,500 --> 01:17:24,110 last couple of years and in the last 1441 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:26,510 couple of months some pretty exciting 1442 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:29,330 papers and one of them was the e/m 1443 01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:32,090 electromagnetic published paper that 1444 01:17:39,729 --> 01:17:36,489 came out two months ago to me Chris that 1445 01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:39,739 validates and and in a weird way kind of 1446 01:17:47,350 --> 01:17:43,760 indicates that book but how did you 1447 01:17:49,450 --> 01:17:47,360 approach that paper and and were you 1448 01:17:51,129 --> 01:17:49,460 excited and did it help you and some of 1449 01:17:54,580 --> 01:17:51,139 your concepts that you've been trying to 1450 01:17:56,890 --> 01:17:54,590 present well you know the 1451 01:17:58,750 --> 01:17:56,900 electromagnetic nature of the Great 1452 01:18:03,040 --> 01:17:58,760 Pyramid has been known for many years I 1453 01:18:08,470 --> 01:18:03,050 mean there are anecdotal stories of 1454 01:18:10,930 --> 01:18:08,480 people being shocked by receiving 1455 01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:10,940 electrical shocks of when they'd be 1456 01:18:19,810 --> 01:18:15,920 climbing the Great Pyramid and the that 1457 01:18:22,810 --> 01:18:19,820 particular paper was when I first read 1458 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:22,820 it I thought you know it was kind of 1459 01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:26,690 like okay that that that really fits but 1460 01:18:35,500 --> 01:18:32,510 as I have studied it more and and kind 1461 01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:35,510 of let it settle in my mind I do see 1462 01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:40,159 that it has a tremendous impact and it 1463 01:18:47,850 --> 01:18:44,449 does dovetail into the the theory about 1464 01:18:52,149 --> 01:18:47,860 the Great Pyramid channeling energies to 1465 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:52,159 to actually build power and be able to 1466 01:18:59,820 --> 01:18:55,730 transduce those energies and and so when 1467 01:19:03,010 --> 01:18:59,830 we see all you know the full range of 1468 01:19:06,370 --> 01:19:03,020 mechanical energy and electromechanical 1469 01:19:10,300 --> 01:19:06,380 energy and these are all working in 1470 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:10,310 unison together I think it supports the 1471 01:19:16,890 --> 01:19:12,130 idea or the theory 1472 01:19:22,890 --> 01:19:16,900 tremendously but it does not I mean it 1473 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:22,900 does not support the mechanical function 1474 01:19:28,770 --> 01:19:25,090 that I described in the Giza power plant 1475 01:19:30,959 --> 01:19:28,780 if you take it you know is just to 1476 01:19:34,799 --> 01:19:30,969 separate that's of research it's like 1477 01:19:38,850 --> 01:19:34,809 well you know my the theory I lay out is 1478 01:19:41,549 --> 01:19:38,860 he's based on on the evidence found 1479 01:19:44,100 --> 01:19:41,559 inside the Great Pyramid but it's more 1480 01:19:46,649 --> 01:19:44,110 of a mechanical thing I mean the 1481 01:19:50,339 --> 01:19:46,659 electoral mechanical energy comes in 1482 01:19:51,899 --> 01:19:50,349 when the hydrogen gas is pumped of a 1483 01:19:55,979 --> 01:19:51,909 higher energy level in the King's 1484 01:20:00,689 --> 01:19:55,989 Chamber right but but as far as other 1485 01:20:03,930 --> 01:20:00,699 energies actually being drawn into the 1486 01:20:08,069 --> 01:20:03,940 the pyramid and assisting in in that 1487 01:20:10,770 --> 01:20:08,079 process I had not considered that but 1488 01:20:15,060 --> 01:20:10,780 I'm certainly considering that now now 1489 01:20:18,270 --> 01:20:15,070 as far as you know what the what the 1490 01:20:21,419 --> 01:20:18,280 final analysis will be I think it's very 1491 01:20:24,299 --> 01:20:21,429 a very attractive a very attractive 1492 01:20:27,719 --> 01:20:24,309 piece of research that really helps I 1493 01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:27,729 mean a lot of people I received Oh tons 1494 01:20:33,290 --> 01:20:30,249 of emails from people who claim that I 1495 01:20:36,089 --> 01:20:33,300 was vindicated him and when I first 1496 01:20:39,989 --> 01:20:36,099 started to get these emails after this 1497 01:20:41,969 --> 01:20:39,999 paper was published it didn't settle 1498 01:20:44,189 --> 01:20:41,979 with me you know I was like well I don't 1499 01:20:47,850 --> 01:20:44,199 I didn't really think that I was been 1500 01:20:49,890 --> 01:20:47,860 dictated in terms of the technologies or 1501 01:20:51,660 --> 01:20:49,900 the you know the science that I was 1502 01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:51,670 describing because this was kind of 1503 01:20:57,209 --> 01:20:54,249 separate from it but now that I you know 1504 01:21:00,989 --> 01:20:57,219 now that I think about it I think he 1505 01:21:03,359 --> 01:21:00,999 does kind of blend into it maybe not 1506 01:21:06,089 --> 01:21:03,369 totally vindicate everything that I've 1507 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:06,099 written about but certainly would blend 1508 01:21:12,709 --> 01:21:10,090 into it yeah I think that the emails 1509 01:21:16,410 --> 01:21:12,719 that you were getting and and what I'm 1510 01:21:19,109 --> 01:21:16,420 certainly alluding to is that it takes 1511 01:21:21,919 --> 01:21:19,119 the focus away from the case that has 1512 01:21:24,250 --> 01:21:21,929 been presented from conventional 1513 01:21:28,859 --> 01:21:24,260 Egyptologists that it was 1514 01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:28,869 a tomb and now we have a deliberate 1515 01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:31,760 deliberate engineering aspect that it 1516 01:21:37,209 --> 01:21:34,400 was designed I'm gonna say that were 1517 01:21:42,609 --> 01:21:37,219 deliberate again deliberately for a 1518 01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:42,619 purpose that was not the the tomb that 1519 01:21:47,770 --> 01:21:45,050 it was intended and what we have been 1520 01:21:50,140 --> 01:21:47,780 told time and time again and I think 1521 01:21:51,129 --> 01:21:50,150 that's what those emails are suggesting 1522 01:21:53,709 --> 01:21:51,139 to you 1523 01:21:58,740 --> 01:21:53,719 yeah so that's that's where I'm coming 1524 01:22:01,689 --> 01:21:58,750 from and we need more of that oh it's 1525 01:22:04,209 --> 01:22:01,699 thick there becomes a tipping point and 1526 01:22:07,689 --> 01:22:04,219 I think we've almost reached it reached 1527 01:22:11,939 --> 01:22:07,699 that point now I certainly has been 1528 01:22:14,529 --> 01:22:11,949 reached on my research into the the 1529 01:22:18,279 --> 01:22:14,539 machining of the granite is kind of like 1530 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:18,289 people really get it and and you know 1531 01:22:23,109 --> 01:22:20,090 they've been millions of tourists 1532 01:22:25,089 --> 01:22:23,119 traveled to Egypt and and even today 1533 01:22:26,649 --> 01:22:25,099 they were traveling around Egypt and 1534 01:22:29,830 --> 01:22:26,659 saying yeah that was machine knows 1535 01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:29,840 machine and and they're I mean these 1536 01:22:37,779 --> 01:22:33,440 people are scientists engineers I took a 1537 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:37,789 tour to Egypt in March and the folks who 1538 01:22:42,129 --> 01:22:40,010 signed up for my tour were very 1539 01:22:44,500 --> 01:22:42,139 accomplished professionals you know 1540 01:22:48,609 --> 01:22:44,510 there were they were we had several 1541 01:22:51,180 --> 01:22:48,619 engineers a geologist some really 1542 01:22:53,049 --> 01:22:51,190 wonderful very very smart people 1543 01:22:56,979 --> 01:22:53,059 construction people there was a 1544 01:22:58,450 --> 01:22:56,989 microwave technician though quality 1545 01:23:02,229 --> 01:22:58,460 engineers who were looking at the 1546 01:23:04,660 --> 01:23:02,239 precision of the storm and it was it was 1547 01:23:07,959 --> 01:23:04,670 you know quite a quite an experience to 1548 01:23:09,509 --> 01:23:07,969 actually share my work with people who 1549 01:23:12,850 --> 01:23:09,519 really got it 1550 01:23:18,759 --> 01:23:12,860 some of them you know not those that 1551 01:23:21,759 --> 01:23:18,769 came on my tour but I some of them the 1552 01:23:24,729 --> 01:23:21,769 letters or emails a text that I get it's 1553 01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:24,739 kind of like okay we get it we get it 1554 01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:28,400 and so it's like I don't really have to 1555 01:23:33,700 --> 01:23:32,449 press my case on the machining aspect 1556 01:23:36,279 --> 01:23:33,710 anymore 1557 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:36,289 it's like it's already out there people 1558 01:23:40,930 --> 01:23:37,970 are recognizing it there 1559 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:40,940 with it and these are people who he 1560 01:23:47,770 --> 01:23:43,850 would actually draw the draw upon if you 1561 01:23:49,450 --> 01:23:47,780 were to actually create these artifacts 1562 01:23:52,510 --> 01:23:49,460 if you wanted to create these artifacts 1563 01:23:54,700 --> 01:23:52,520 you want you want recruit Egyptologists 1564 01:23:57,370 --> 01:23:54,710 to create these artifacts you would 1565 01:24:00,880 --> 01:23:57,380 recruit technicians engineers machinist 1566 01:24:04,110 --> 01:24:00,890 or makers builders you know those who 1567 01:24:09,130 --> 01:24:04,120 have expertise in in how things are made 1568 01:24:11,890 --> 01:24:09,140 well they get it yeah they do I I think 1569 01:24:13,510 --> 01:24:11,900 and it's gonna be soon I'm gonna make 1570 01:24:16,210 --> 01:24:13,520 this very brief my opinion doesn't 1571 01:24:19,150 --> 01:24:16,220 matter but I think that very soon 1572 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:19,160 there's it's gonna get to the point 1573 01:24:25,950 --> 01:24:21,770 Chris where they're gonna have to tap 1574 01:24:30,460 --> 01:24:25,960 out right though I have to say Oracle 1575 01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:30,470 but III thought that real that really 1576 01:24:37,480 --> 01:24:33,920 has never has never bothered me you know 1577 01:24:39,700 --> 01:24:37,490 I haven't been on a crusade to convince 1578 01:24:42,670 --> 01:24:39,710 the Egyptologists I figure the work will 1579 01:24:46,300 --> 01:24:42,680 be out there and maybe another 1580 01:24:49,810 --> 01:24:46,310 generation you know you would have that 1581 01:24:52,180 --> 01:24:49,820 that that paradigm shift I mean when 1582 01:24:58,210 --> 01:24:52,190 when you consider Jimmy can you go back 1583 01:25:01,450 --> 01:24:58,220 I picked up features work in in 1978 1584 01:25:04,420 --> 01:25:01,460 right and that was a like a hundred 1585 01:25:06,940 --> 01:25:04,430 years after after Healy he was doing his 1586 01:25:12,430 --> 01:25:06,950 research right a hundred years right 1587 01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:12,440 right and so all credit to flinders 1588 01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:15,920 petrie for being such a pioneer and and 1589 01:25:23,740 --> 01:25:20,210 putting the sauce on paper but you know 1590 01:25:26,050 --> 01:25:23,750 in another hundred years we just don't 1591 01:25:27,730 --> 01:25:26,060 know what the the intellectual 1592 01:25:30,670 --> 01:25:27,740 landscapes going to look like when it 1593 01:25:34,030 --> 01:25:30,680 comes to our understanding of Egypt I 1594 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:34,040 know I can tell you now that the 1595 01:25:40,540 --> 01:25:37,130 Egyptians I think if there is going to 1596 01:25:42,430 --> 01:25:40,550 be a revolution of thought on the 1597 01:25:44,110 --> 01:25:42,440 Egyptian monuments is going to come from 1598 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:44,120 the Egyptians it's not going to come 1599 01:25:49,340 --> 01:25:47,570 from the West and they have more a 1600 01:25:52,700 --> 01:25:49,350 greater stake in 1601 01:25:56,390 --> 01:25:52,710 correct in the record then what we do I 1602 01:25:58,220 --> 01:25:56,400 mean I had we're gonna head towards a 1603 01:26:01,430 --> 01:25:58,230 break I want your comment on this it was 1604 01:26:05,570 --> 01:26:01,440 interesting I had a limo driver we're 1605 01:26:07,580 --> 01:26:05,580 driving from Manhattan to a JFK right 1606 01:26:11,110 --> 01:26:07,590 we're at the end of our stay there a 1607 01:26:15,170 --> 01:26:11,120 little door and he finds out who I am 1608 01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:15,180 right and he's hello oh oh we got a talk 1609 01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:19,370 and I said okay and he said he was an 1610 01:26:29,450 --> 01:26:23,250 Egyptologist eight years of school in 1611 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:29,460 Egypt and he said that on a general 1612 01:26:34,610 --> 01:26:32,370 level that everybody going to school 1613 01:26:37,730 --> 01:26:34,620 there understands that they're being 1614 01:26:42,440 --> 01:26:37,740 lied to that they know that these 1615 01:26:45,350 --> 01:26:42,450 conversations go on all day long and he 1616 01:26:49,010 --> 01:26:45,360 said in the end he got so frustrated 1617 01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:49,020 with the system there that he packed up 1618 01:26:54,550 --> 01:26:51,570 and came to the states that it is 1619 01:26:58,040 --> 01:26:54,560 completely polluted that they are 1620 01:27:00,290 --> 01:26:58,050 telling you to say one thing but you're 1621 01:27:03,710 --> 01:27:00,300 learning another he said he said I'm 1622 01:27:07,250 --> 01:27:03,720 gonna be an honest man we are all as as 1623 01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:07,260 kids in school asking the same questions 1624 01:27:12,740 --> 01:27:10,290 you know this is impossible he said and 1625 01:27:15,380 --> 01:27:12,750 trust me that's the way that it is but 1626 01:27:19,130 --> 01:27:15,390 if you're gonna get your degree you have 1627 01:27:23,690 --> 01:27:19,140 to conform and that he was he was hard 1628 01:27:26,090 --> 01:27:23,700 fast and and angry in this conversation 1629 01:27:27,070 --> 01:27:26,100 it was fascinating Christie here him a 1630 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:27,080 present 1631 01:27:32,060 --> 01:27:29,370 well I mean I'm working with an 1632 01:27:34,190 --> 01:27:32,070 Egyptologist for my toes Mohammed 1633 01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:34,200 Ibrahim there were a wonderful wonderful 1634 01:27:42,950 --> 01:27:39,360 guy the best and and he totally gets it 1635 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:42,960 and then supports it and and you know he 1636 01:27:49,310 --> 01:27:47,010 is he's free he's preaching it to and 1637 01:27:52,250 --> 01:27:49,320 his friends all he was taught by Zahi 1638 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:52,260 Hawass he's friendly with the director 1639 01:27:57,610 --> 01:27:54,570 of the Great Pyramid and they have a 1640 01:28:00,320 --> 01:27:57,620 wonderful relationship but they're all 1641 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:00,330 they're all questioning and wasn't 1642 01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:02,610 looking good wasn't 1643 01:28:08,540 --> 01:28:04,080 we gotta head towards a break wasn't 1644 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:08,550 Zahi his teacher in school before he was 1645 01:28:16,430 --> 01:28:13,290 the director yes and colleague he was he 1646 01:28:19,070 --> 01:28:16,440 was his professor absolutely incredible 1647 01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:19,080 let's uh I don't want to dwell on that 1648 01:28:24,860 --> 01:28:23,250 but that's a fascinating fact let's take 1649 01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:24,870 a break right here Chris and we'll come 1650 01:28:28,250 --> 01:28:26,610 back we'll pick up where we left off I 1651 01:28:30,860 --> 01:28:28,260 do want to get into some of the 1652 01:28:32,540 --> 01:28:30,870 chemistry of the Giza power plant and 1653 01:28:34,370 --> 01:28:32,550 we're gonna discuss that next 1654 01:28:35,870 --> 01:28:34,380 this is fade to black on meros to be 1655 01:28:41,050 --> 01:28:35,880 Church our guest tonight Christopher 1656 01:28:41,060 --> 01:28:50,810 [Music] 1657 01:28:58,020 --> 01:28:53,990 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1658 01:29:00,330 --> 01:28:58,030 you're 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01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:32,570 chemistry side of things we're talking 1743 01:33:39,340 --> 01:33:36,170 about high technology here and when the 1744 01:33:42,450 --> 01:33:39,350 concept appears to be downloaded to you 1745 01:33:45,310 --> 01:33:42,460 by the way I like that the glowing green 1746 01:33:49,180 --> 01:33:45,320 hieroglyphics when the concept first 1747 01:33:52,450 --> 01:33:49,190 came to you for the Great Pyramid to be 1748 01:33:54,580 --> 01:33:52,460 used as a power source that introduces 1749 01:33:57,010 --> 01:33:54,590 chemistry and certainly we're talking 1750 01:34:00,510 --> 01:33:57,020 about a civilization that shouldn't have 1751 01:34:03,340 --> 01:34:00,520 understood this but when in its very 1752 01:34:04,810 --> 01:34:03,350 fundamental form what are we talking 1753 01:34:09,550 --> 01:34:04,820 about here when we're dealing with 1754 01:34:13,690 --> 01:34:09,560 chemistry we're talking about the 1755 01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:13,700 Queen's Chamber but in the end the 1756 01:34:21,550 --> 01:34:17,090 overall concept of the technology that 1757 01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:21,560 was being employed and the it goes where 1758 01:34:33,010 --> 01:34:28,130 you have a device where you can drive a 1759 01:34:35,410 --> 01:34:33,020 gas to a high energy level and introduce 1760 01:34:38,770 --> 01:34:35,420 a microwave signal and then draw power 1761 01:34:41,500 --> 01:34:38,780 from the pyramid in and beam it to the 1762 01:34:44,380 --> 01:34:41,510 outside so that's the overall concept 1763 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:44,390 and the the gas that I selected was 1764 01:34:50,230 --> 01:34:47,570 hydrogen the reason I selected that was 1765 01:34:52,510 --> 01:34:50,240 that the wavelength of hydrogen matched 1766 01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:52,520 the northern shaft the width of the 1767 01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:53,450 northern shaft 1768 01:35:02,110 --> 01:34:57,970 whereas hydrogen has a wavelength of 1769 01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:02,120 8.30 nine inches and the the northern 1770 01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:05,090 shaft has a width of eight point four 1771 01:35:12,790 --> 01:35:09,290 inches so when we look for the place 1772 01:35:15,580 --> 01:35:12,800 where this chemistry took place and and 1773 01:35:17,830 --> 01:35:15,590 gas was generated then we look into the 1774 01:35:20,470 --> 01:35:17,840 Queen's Chamber and all the research 1775 01:35:22,210 --> 01:35:20,480 that has been done in the Queen's GEMA 1776 01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:22,220 going back to the eighteen hundred's 1777 01:35:28,179 --> 01:35:26,090 were you know Piazzi Smythe discovered 1778 01:35:31,330 --> 01:35:28,189 the southern shaft and 1779 01:35:34,029 --> 01:35:31,340 and the the the the evidence the 1780 01:35:36,580 --> 01:35:34,039 substances that are found there and then 1781 01:35:38,259 --> 01:35:36,590 later went Ganton brink sent his robot 1782 01:35:40,959 --> 01:35:38,269 atlas of the southern shaft and 1783 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:40,969 discovered that so-called door which is 1784 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:43,010 not a door i mean the two shafts are 1785 01:35:47,949 --> 01:35:46,010 only about a D&C square maybe a door for 1786 01:35:53,140 --> 01:35:47,959 a squirrel or something great right 1787 01:35:55,330 --> 01:35:53,150 right they the but he discovered that 1788 01:35:57,279 --> 01:35:55,340 they had these metal fittings coming 1789 01:36:00,879 --> 01:35:57,289 through coming through that that 1790 01:36:04,750 --> 01:36:00,889 limestone block and when I first saw 1791 01:36:11,379 --> 01:36:04,760 that and it was in rubble bobbles book 1792 01:36:13,959 --> 01:36:11,389 the the his first book the Orion mystery 1793 01:36:16,209 --> 01:36:13,969 the ryan mystery yes so I just had a bit 1794 01:36:19,179 --> 01:36:16,219 of a brain pick and sorry it's the age 1795 01:36:25,089 --> 01:36:22,330 so the Orion mystery described that 1796 01:36:27,219 --> 01:36:25,099 exploration and and then his 1797 01:36:30,969 --> 01:36:27,229 relationship with Rudolph Canton bring 1798 01:36:34,830 --> 01:36:30,979 it was fascinating and but when I saw 1799 01:36:38,290 --> 01:36:34,840 the documentary that was made from that 1800 01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:38,300 exploration and discovery and the first 1801 01:36:44,890 --> 01:36:41,090 time I saw you know you know in the TV 1802 01:36:47,799 --> 01:36:44,900 screen this of this a blockage of the 1803 01:36:50,500 --> 01:36:47,809 southern shaft because not until then 1804 01:36:53,339 --> 01:36:50,510 nobody knew where that ship that chef 1805 01:36:57,219 --> 01:36:53,349 went out to the outside or where it went 1806 01:36:58,899 --> 01:36:57,229 and then these are these couple of 1807 01:37:01,689 --> 01:36:58,909 fittings or metal fittings coming 1808 01:37:05,020 --> 01:37:01,699 through immediately it just fit right 1809 01:37:08,620 --> 01:37:05,030 into the the the theory that I was 1810 01:37:13,509 --> 01:37:08,630 developing in that that they were using 1811 01:37:16,419 --> 01:37:13,519 a to chemicals to to boil off hydrogen 1812 01:37:18,850 --> 01:37:16,429 in the Queen's Chamber one was the I'd 1813 01:37:21,759 --> 01:37:18,860 raided zinc in the northern shaft and a 1814 01:37:24,129 --> 01:37:21,769 dilute solution of hydrochloric acid and 1815 01:37:27,609 --> 01:37:24,139 that when they mix they boil off 1816 01:37:29,469 --> 01:37:27,619 hydrogen and so the evidence in the 1817 01:37:32,500 --> 01:37:29,479 Queen's Chamber is very strong for that 1818 01:37:35,620 --> 01:37:32,510 because in the you know early early 1819 01:37:38,459 --> 01:37:35,630 explorers noted that the the chamber had 1820 01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:38,469 a calling of salts up to an inch thick 1821 01:37:45,260 --> 01:37:41,970 and also in the northern shaft 1822 01:37:47,480 --> 01:37:45,270 you have a corrosive liquid the the 1823 01:37:49,340 --> 01:37:47,490 lower parts of the shaft were what 1824 01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:49,350 actually looked like that Kuro didn't 1825 01:37:54,950 --> 01:37:51,810 there's a part in the floor of the shaft 1826 01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:54,960 that that seemed to suggest that there 1827 01:37:59,870 --> 01:37:57,570 was a corrosion going on in the in that 1828 01:38:02,270 --> 01:37:59,880 shaft and then the company copper 1829 01:38:04,310 --> 01:38:02,280 fittings themselves I say couple but I 1830 01:38:08,780 --> 01:38:04,320 don't we I don't know what the metal is 1831 01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:08,790 but these fittings were corroded and 1832 01:38:14,780 --> 01:38:12,810 they were tapered from that the top of 1833 01:38:17,470 --> 01:38:14,790 the this wider at the top and the bottom 1834 01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:17,480 which suggests that that liquid was 1835 01:38:24,230 --> 01:38:20,730 actually falling and then filling up 1836 01:38:26,170 --> 01:38:24,240 again and then falling but the the 1837 01:38:29,950 --> 01:38:26,180 theory in the in the Giza Plateau and 1838 01:38:32,630 --> 01:38:29,960 describes at that being a fluid switch 1839 01:38:36,740 --> 01:38:32,640 because what you need what you needed 1840 01:38:39,590 --> 01:38:36,750 here to determine the exact flow into 1841 01:38:42,290 --> 01:38:39,600 the chamber was what you needed to know 1842 01:38:44,510 --> 01:38:42,300 was what the head pressure was and the 1843 01:38:47,780 --> 01:38:44,520 head pressure determined you know what 1844 01:38:52,220 --> 01:38:47,790 pressure you were putting up against the 1845 01:38:55,670 --> 01:38:52,230 law of the lower section where the shaft 1846 01:38:57,860 --> 01:38:55,680 does not meet the Queen's Chamber it 1847 01:39:00,890 --> 01:38:57,870 doesn't go directly through it but there 1848 01:39:05,170 --> 01:39:00,900 is like a five inch left with the collar 1849 01:39:07,690 --> 01:39:05,180 left where they the shaft was cut 1850 01:39:11,060 --> 01:39:07,700 leaving there are five inches of 1851 01:39:12,890 --> 01:39:11,070 limestone between the shaft and the 1852 01:39:15,740 --> 01:39:12,900 inside wall of the of the Queen's 1853 01:39:19,190 --> 01:39:15,750 Chamber so gayden the rings door wasn't 1854 01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:19,200 a door or a plug but a switch it was a 1855 01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:22,410 switch it was a it was a fluid switch 1856 01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:26,970 yes and I mean and there they used they 1857 01:39:33,140 --> 01:39:29,930 used very popularly and a lot of 1858 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:33,150 machines I mean they I was involved in 1859 01:39:39,410 --> 01:39:36,330 in in managing a laser Department and we 1860 01:39:42,230 --> 01:39:39,420 had deionized water and we had to make 1861 01:39:45,700 --> 01:39:42,240 sure that the water did not become 1862 01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:45,710 ionized and so there there was a switch 1863 01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:49,770 that was installed in the tank and if it 1864 01:39:53,780 --> 01:39:52,050 became ionized then they will be 1865 01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:53,790 electron flow between the two electrodes 1866 01:40:00,860 --> 01:39:54,810 and 1867 01:40:04,370 --> 01:40:00,870 you'd have to shut in the laser down 1868 01:40:07,450 --> 01:40:04,380 because the high energy that you were 1869 01:40:10,610 --> 01:40:07,460 driving the lamps with if you're using 1870 01:40:13,450 --> 01:40:10,620 if you're using ionized water to cool 1871 01:40:19,310 --> 01:40:13,460 the lamps then you would have problems 1872 01:40:23,300 --> 01:40:19,320 so the those kind of those kind of 1873 01:40:26,330 --> 01:40:23,310 devices are well known in engineering 1874 01:40:30,290 --> 01:40:26,340 getting manufacturing and so it seemed 1875 01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:30,300 you know just natural but live I would I 1876 01:40:37,810 --> 01:40:35,130 would actually you know determined other 1877 01:40:41,540 --> 01:40:37,820 yeah what we have is affluence which I 1878 01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:41,550 actually built a model of the Ganton 1879 01:40:47,270 --> 01:40:43,530 bring store and a section of the shaft 1880 01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:47,280 and I demonstrated how how it works and 1881 01:40:50,450 --> 01:40:49,530 they worked perfectly fine even with 1882 01:40:54,530 --> 01:40:50,460 regular water 1883 01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:54,540 now with these salt deposits I don't 1884 01:40:59,720 --> 01:40:56,010 want that to get away from us this is 1885 01:41:02,030 --> 01:40:59,730 very significant so what would the salt 1886 01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:02,040 deposit when the chamber was first 1887 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:08,730 discovered what does that say to you the 1888 01:41:18,740 --> 01:41:13,010 one of the ways that you have for drying 1889 01:41:21,610 --> 01:41:18,750 hydrogen when you create hydrogen is it 1890 01:41:24,440 --> 01:41:21,620 boils awfully from a chemical process 1891 01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:24,450 but it has to dry and it passes over a 1892 01:41:31,010 --> 01:41:27,290 limestone and the limestone has a 1893 01:41:34,910 --> 01:41:31,020 function where it would actually dry dry 1894 01:41:39,290 --> 01:41:34,920 the gas and then it would give up some 1895 01:41:41,450 --> 01:41:39,300 of this some of this all sorry would 1896 01:41:44,030 --> 01:41:41,460 leak salts from from the limestone 1897 01:41:50,410 --> 01:41:44,040 itself and then that would gathered on 1898 01:41:55,070 --> 01:41:50,420 the walls now the conventional historian 1899 01:41:59,330 --> 01:41:55,080 Orthodox Egyptologist would explain this 1900 01:42:05,120 --> 01:41:59,340 away how I don't think they would even 1901 01:42:07,219 --> 01:42:05,130 address it I I you know I don't expect 1902 01:42:09,540 --> 01:42:07,229 them to address it 1903 01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:09,550 they would just dismiss it out of hand 1904 01:42:15,659 --> 01:42:13,449 because it doesn't really fit with we're 1905 01:42:18,109 --> 01:42:15,669 there for interview their worldview so 1906 01:42:23,219 --> 01:42:18,119 it's not something that I expect them to 1907 01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:23,229 even even address certainly you know 1908 01:42:30,779 --> 01:42:27,280 there have been there have been comments 1909 01:42:34,799 --> 01:42:30,789 made about the you know the practicality 1910 01:42:39,359 --> 01:42:34,809 of of using a corrosive liquid in a 1911 01:42:42,299 --> 01:42:39,369 limestone shaft and so I had to you know 1912 01:42:44,759 --> 01:42:42,309 do an experiment myself with dilute 1913 01:42:47,609 --> 01:42:44,769 hydrochloric acid on limestone to see 1914 01:42:51,179 --> 01:42:47,619 what the arrows are corrosion rate was 1915 01:42:53,580 --> 01:42:51,189 and it's definitely it definitely 1916 01:42:56,819 --> 01:42:53,590 corrode they would corrode over time but 1917 01:43:00,719 --> 01:42:56,829 but it would stay still you know he 1918 01:43:03,119 --> 01:43:00,729 could you could conduit those chemicals 1919 01:43:05,339 --> 01:43:03,129 through through a limestone shale and 1920 01:43:08,609 --> 01:43:05,349 speaking of the shafts you had a very 1921 01:43:09,929 --> 01:43:08,619 interesting conversation I I don't know 1922 01:43:12,330 --> 01:43:09,939 if we're finished with the chemicals 1923 01:43:14,310 --> 01:43:12,340 that's am not bothered about the 1924 01:43:16,589 --> 01:43:14,320 chemicals because I was fascinated with 1925 01:43:19,379 --> 01:43:16,599 your conversation with my neighbor last 1926 01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:19,389 night about about the actually building 1927 01:43:27,779 --> 01:43:24,610 the shafts on the northern shaft they 1928 01:43:30,750 --> 01:43:27,789 did an exploration the the pyramid 1929 01:43:34,500 --> 01:43:30,760 pyramid explore a parameter over went up 1930 01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:34,510 to northern ship and they they found 1931 01:43:40,350 --> 01:43:36,489 that the northern there's a northern 1932 01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:40,360 blockage that also had these what I call 1933 01:43:46,259 --> 01:43:43,570 electrodes protruding through it but 1934 01:43:49,049 --> 01:43:46,269 they're of a different nature than the 1935 01:43:51,239 --> 01:43:49,059 the southern ship then they're one of 1936 01:43:55,589 --> 01:43:51,249 the electrodes I'm presuming the cathode 1937 01:43:57,899 --> 01:43:55,599 has a buildup of some kind of white 1938 01:44:00,779 --> 01:43:57,909 substance it's almost it looks like it's 1939 01:44:03,419 --> 01:44:00,789 been electroplated and there's 1940 01:44:05,129 --> 01:44:03,429 definitely the appearance of a some kind 1941 01:44:09,569 --> 01:44:05,139 of a chemical process like like a 1942 01:44:11,310 --> 01:44:09,579 battery you know if you look at the the 1943 01:44:14,129 --> 01:44:11,320 electrodes or the leaves on ion a 1944 01:44:19,139 --> 01:44:14,139 battery you see how they you know they 1945 01:44:20,459 --> 01:44:19,149 they build up my substance when when 1946 01:44:22,170 --> 01:44:20,469 they have been installed for quite a 1947 01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:22,180 while 1948 01:44:28,229 --> 01:44:26,010 and then if you per then the latest 1949 01:44:31,440 --> 01:44:28,239 exploration of the southern shaft in the 1950 01:44:34,890 --> 01:44:31,450 Queen's Chamber they were able to poke a 1951 01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:34,900 camera through the hole that articulated 1952 01:44:41,810 --> 01:44:38,290 and they were able to look back and and 1953 01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:41,820 get a view of the backside of those 1954 01:44:50,850 --> 01:44:46,570 those copper fittings and they actually 1955 01:44:53,940 --> 01:44:50,860 curl a loop around and go back into the 1956 01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:53,950 block yeah well when I saw that let's 1957 01:44:58,890 --> 01:44:56,410 let's talk about that for a second I am 1958 01:45:01,050 --> 01:44:58,900 right yeah what do you think is going 1959 01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:01,060 yeah what do you think is going on there 1960 01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:07,360 oh it's it's fascinating actually and I 1961 01:45:15,630 --> 01:45:10,930 actually made again at one of those the 1962 01:45:18,660 --> 01:45:15,640 Ganton bring door and I formed my own my 1963 01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:18,670 own copper fittings with the loops that 1964 01:45:27,380 --> 01:45:22,090 came back into the into the door and the 1965 01:45:31,290 --> 01:45:27,390 upper the the other part of that was the 1966 01:45:34,380 --> 01:45:31,300 it was the the markings that were on the 1967 01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:34,390 floor at the back of the door so you 1968 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:37,810 have you have these copper fittings and 1969 01:45:43,590 --> 01:45:40,810 then you have these markings on on the 1970 01:45:45,630 --> 01:45:43,600 floor and then when you look at the 1971 01:45:49,260 --> 01:45:45,640 copper fittings and you see sure enough 1972 01:45:52,229 --> 01:45:49,270 one of the one of these one of the 1973 01:45:54,030 --> 01:45:52,239 electrodes had had these this builder 1974 01:45:59,240 --> 01:45:54,040 for the substance on a corrosion on it 1975 01:46:03,600 --> 01:45:59,250 and then the other one was cleaned so 1976 01:46:08,910 --> 01:46:03,610 it's a and the markings seem to indicate 1977 01:46:12,870 --> 01:46:08,920 how the those fittings of those metal 1978 01:46:15,180 --> 01:46:12,880 fittings were wired and they're the well 1979 01:46:18,810 --> 01:46:15,190 when I looked at the marks on the floor 1980 01:46:21,420 --> 01:46:18,820 it's like I'm looking at I'm looking at 1981 01:46:24,090 --> 01:46:21,430 any schematic and electric electrical 1982 01:46:25,530 --> 01:46:24,100 symbols I'm not looking at you know a 1983 01:46:29,580 --> 01:46:25,540 higher arc or so when they were first 1984 01:46:32,610 --> 01:46:29,590 discovered they were people were very 1985 01:46:34,590 --> 01:46:32,620 puzzled because they they didn't they 1986 01:46:37,110 --> 01:46:34,600 didn't have any known 1987 01:46:39,690 --> 01:46:37,120 hieroglyph that actually looked like it 1988 01:46:42,060 --> 01:46:39,700 but if you if you view them as being 1989 01:46:42,810 --> 01:46:42,070 electrical symbols you know it really 1990 01:46:47,570 --> 01:46:42,820 makes sense 1991 01:46:49,980 --> 01:46:47,580 oh man that is genius you know what I 1992 01:46:55,890 --> 01:46:49,990 I'm gonna make you laugh I looked at 1993 01:46:59,070 --> 01:46:55,900 that and I saw like childlike attempts 1994 01:47:03,920 --> 01:46:59,080 at stick figures I don't know right 1995 01:47:07,500 --> 01:47:03,930 well there's even a market even a line 1996 01:47:11,310 --> 01:47:07,510 going towards the with the one well the 1997 01:47:13,650 --> 01:47:11,320 one feeling that there's highlights or a 1998 01:47:15,090 --> 01:47:13,660 identifies the polarity you know so if 1999 01:47:18,980 --> 01:47:15,100 they heard this is the positive 2000 01:47:21,990 --> 01:47:18,990 electrode and this is how you wire and 2001 01:47:25,260 --> 01:47:22,000 and it's it's it's very clear I mean the 2002 01:47:28,050 --> 01:47:25,270 the markings are fairly crude you know 2003 01:47:29,250 --> 01:47:28,060 probably painted on with red ochre paint 2004 01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:29,260 or something like that 2005 01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:35,290 but there have three articles so in my 2006 01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:40,210 articles page about the explorations of 2007 01:47:46,950 --> 01:47:42,970 the southern shaft in the northern shell 2008 01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:46,960 and there's what article called evidence 2009 01:47:53,670 --> 01:47:51,280 leading to Canton brings door then what 2010 01:47:57,150 --> 01:47:53,680 is behind Canton brings door and then 2011 01:48:00,930 --> 01:47:57,160 beyond Ganton we saw and those those 2012 01:48:04,380 --> 01:48:00,940 articles actually include those images 2013 01:48:09,140 --> 01:48:04,390 and photographs of the photographs of 2014 01:48:13,020 --> 01:48:09,150 the device that I made but you know 2015 01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:13,030 theories have to be predictive and and 2016 01:48:18,780 --> 01:48:16,090 so new evidence if you have a theory and 2017 01:48:21,090 --> 01:48:18,790 new evidence is turned up if it doesn't 2018 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:21,100 if it doesn't support your theory then 2019 01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:24,970 you have to change your theory and if 2020 01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:26,650 you can't change your theory then you 2021 01:48:31,050 --> 01:48:28,570 pretty much have to go back to the 2022 01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:31,060 drawing board or you know abandon it and 2023 01:48:38,210 --> 01:48:35,110 it seems that every every little bit of 2024 01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:38,220 information that's been gathered 2025 01:48:43,770 --> 01:48:41,650 supports supports the the theory that I 2026 01:48:47,190 --> 01:48:43,780 described and illustrated in my book 2027 01:48:52,380 --> 01:48:47,200 even down to the first exploration 2028 01:48:54,480 --> 01:48:52,390 I began tempering when he they used a an 2029 01:48:55,830 --> 01:48:54,490 ultrasonic thickness test of because 2030 01:48:56,910 --> 01:48:55,840 they were going to drill through the 2031 01:48:59,010 --> 01:48:56,920 door mmm 2032 01:49:01,560 --> 01:48:59,020 although this wasn't Ganton ring this 2033 01:49:04,260 --> 01:49:01,570 was all the the next exploration I think 2034 01:49:06,150 --> 01:49:04,270 it was in 2002 they're gonna drink they 2035 01:49:07,860 --> 01:49:06,160 were gonna drill through the door but 2036 01:49:11,790 --> 01:49:07,870 they needed to know how long a drill 2037 01:49:14,090 --> 01:49:11,800 they needed to use right so they used an 2038 01:49:18,480 --> 01:49:14,100 ultrasonic thickness tester on it and 2039 01:49:23,070 --> 01:49:18,490 they came up with the dimension of about 2040 01:49:26,130 --> 01:49:23,080 three point two five and the and in my 2041 01:49:28,350 --> 01:49:26,140 book my dimension on that was 2042 01:49:32,310 --> 01:49:28,360 illustrated to be about three point six 2043 01:49:34,710 --> 01:49:32,320 four so you know for the design intent 2044 01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:34,720 they kind of drive the intention all 2045 01:49:39,710 --> 01:49:36,970 that the function of a device that it 2046 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:39,720 kind of drives the the design of it 2047 01:49:47,010 --> 01:49:42,610 because you know I mean that's just the 2048 01:49:50,910 --> 01:49:47,020 way it works in engineering that you you 2049 01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:50,920 look at it as an engineer because 2050 01:49:58,290 --> 01:49:55,090 everybody was attempting to get a name 2051 01:50:01,320 --> 01:49:58,300 out of that glyph or you know something 2052 01:50:06,590 --> 01:50:01,330 known from from hieroglyphics and that 2053 01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:10,920 the electrical side of things where it 2054 01:50:16,140 --> 01:50:13,810 because when you look at when you look 2055 01:50:18,870 --> 01:50:16,150 at anything that is representing 2056 01:50:21,570 --> 01:50:18,880 electronics that symbolism doesn't make 2057 01:50:24,090 --> 01:50:21,580 sense to anybody right you have to be an 2058 01:50:26,310 --> 01:50:24,100 electrician to understand what is going 2059 01:50:27,810 --> 01:50:26,320 on there it just doesn't it doesn't look 2060 01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:27,820 like an alphabet it doesn't look like 2061 01:50:32,970 --> 01:50:31,330 anything this is and I know you're 2062 01:50:35,010 --> 01:50:32,980 understanding exactly what I'm saying 2063 01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:35,020 and if you look at it through Chris 2064 01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:37,840 Dunn's eyes now we're looking at 2065 01:50:42,990 --> 01:50:39,850 something else it's a schematic it's 2066 01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:43,000 symbolism for schematics which and 2067 01:50:49,670 --> 01:50:44,650 nobody else would even understand when 2068 01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:49,680 they first see it well yes I mean and 2069 01:50:57,840 --> 01:50:53,410 probably even those who are engineers or 2070 01:51:00,000 --> 01:50:57,850 electricians probably will I mean it was 2071 01:51:02,279 --> 01:51:00,010 obvious to me because 2072 01:51:05,459 --> 01:51:02,289 had done the groundwork and developed a 2073 01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:05,469 theory where those you know those 2074 01:51:10,350 --> 01:51:08,170 features actually fit right in to blend 2075 01:51:14,939 --> 01:51:10,360 it right in just like a hand in glove 2076 01:51:18,870 --> 01:51:14,949 and and so it was obvious to me it may 2077 01:51:21,509 --> 01:51:18,880 not be obvious to everybody I but it 2078 01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:21,519 seemed obvious to me and I've written 2079 01:51:29,189 --> 01:51:23,650 about it I will write more about it in 2080 01:51:29,729 --> 01:51:29,199 my next book now ok so it's an energy 2081 01:51:32,430 --> 01:51:29,739 source 2082 01:51:36,149 --> 01:51:32,440 okay let's Excel what we'll accept that 2083 01:51:40,979 --> 01:51:36,159 let's let's let's go with this but the 2084 01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:40,989 next question is for what oh that's 2085 01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:45,489 that's a perennial question it never 2086 01:51:52,500 --> 01:51:48,639 goes away right or what and you know the 2087 01:51:58,140 --> 01:51:52,510 only the only answer I I have you know 2088 01:52:01,169 --> 01:51:58,150 whatever reason they wanted it for some 2089 01:52:06,979 --> 01:52:01,179 people have actually speculated that 2090 01:52:11,899 --> 01:52:06,989 they that it was a microwave beacon 2091 01:52:16,620 --> 01:52:11,909 where it was actually guiding crafts or 2092 01:52:21,959 --> 01:52:16,630 triangulating with other microwave beams 2093 01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:21,969 to get as a guidance system but in terms 2094 01:52:29,700 --> 01:52:25,210 of what we know about the generation of 2095 01:52:32,759 --> 01:52:29,710 energy and how we use it then you know 2096 01:52:35,129 --> 01:52:32,769 we we get the question well where are 2097 01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:35,139 you know where are the microwave ovens 2098 01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:38,650 where the toasters and so people are 2099 01:52:47,060 --> 01:52:43,170 trying to understand it in modern terms 2100 01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:47,070 but that question could be asked about 2101 01:52:52,350 --> 01:52:50,650 just about everything that's missing in 2102 01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:52,360 Egypt because there's so much missing 2103 01:53:00,240 --> 01:52:56,530 and you know to say that okay we have 2104 01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:00,250 all the the tools and the inspection 2105 01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:04,449 equipment which would have to be fairly 2106 01:53:11,910 --> 01:53:09,250 substantial and planned plentiful in 2107 01:53:12,870 --> 01:53:11,920 order to do the work that they did we 2108 01:53:17,189 --> 01:53:12,880 accept that though 2109 01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:17,199 was missing they disappeared into the 2110 01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:20,050 earth somewhere maybe you know a huge 2111 01:53:27,390 --> 01:53:23,770 tsunami big Cataclysm scrubbed the 2112 01:53:31,830 --> 01:53:27,400 landscape of all of these items but then 2113 01:53:35,340 --> 01:53:31,840 we we need to see a toaster oven before 2114 01:53:40,070 --> 01:53:35,350 we'll accept that they their largest 2115 01:53:43,580 --> 01:53:40,080 project which was actually a power plant 2116 01:53:47,399 --> 01:53:43,590 the largest project we needed to have 2117 01:53:50,430 --> 01:53:47,409 those items in order to prove that it 2118 01:53:53,189 --> 01:53:50,440 was a power plant well you thought about 2119 01:53:57,840 --> 01:53:53,199 this a lot you think about this every 2120 01:54:00,510 --> 01:53:57,850 day Chris what what is it that if you 2121 01:54:01,890 --> 01:54:00,520 were if you were gonna put the you know 2122 01:54:04,020 --> 01:54:01,900 the money down you're gonna push your 2123 01:54:08,419 --> 01:54:04,030 poker chips to the center of the table 2124 01:54:13,070 --> 01:54:08,429 what do you think it was used for um I 2125 01:54:16,490 --> 01:54:13,080 think I mean I think it was used for 2126 01:54:20,820 --> 01:54:16,500 utilitarian purposes they were powering 2127 01:54:26,370 --> 01:54:20,830 their power civilization and they were 2128 01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:26,380 probably I mean in my book I fantasize 2129 01:54:36,090 --> 01:54:31,650 is a fantasy or speculation about how 2130 01:54:38,070 --> 01:54:36,100 that energy if what we know about the 2131 01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:38,080 transmission of energy today and what 2132 01:54:47,010 --> 01:54:42,610 has been proposed that that energy could 2133 01:54:50,340 --> 01:54:47,020 be bounced off a relay satellite to 2134 01:54:54,689 --> 01:54:50,350 another part of the world or to the moon 2135 01:54:58,530 --> 01:54:54,699 or you know to somewhere else to a craft 2136 01:55:00,479 --> 01:54:58,540 that's traveling through space I mean 2137 01:55:03,419 --> 01:55:00,489 their speculation I mean there's you 2138 01:55:06,090 --> 01:55:03,429 know speculation is that is a that is 2139 01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:06,100 viable to reduce the amount of fuel that 2140 01:55:14,010 --> 01:55:10,570 a craft has to carry into orbit they 2141 01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:14,020 they speculate that that energy could be 2142 01:55:18,990 --> 01:55:16,690 beamed through that craft or it to you 2143 01:55:22,979 --> 01:55:19,000 so they don't have to have such a large 2144 01:55:26,319 --> 01:55:22,989 payload sure so a tesla free energy type 2145 01:55:33,330 --> 01:55:28,989 well I mean it's I think he's kind of 2146 01:55:36,790 --> 01:55:33,340 you know it's a pragmatic practical spec 2147 01:55:38,949 --> 01:55:36,800 speculation or you know it's but bits 2148 01:55:43,389 --> 01:55:38,959 worth it's definitely worth discussing 2149 01:55:45,639 --> 01:55:43,399 and if there was you know if it was 2150 01:55:49,330 --> 01:55:45,649 decided that yes this is what we need to 2151 01:55:51,459 --> 01:55:49,340 do we need to put the funding and the 2152 01:55:55,060 --> 01:55:51,469 resources behind it and make sure that 2153 01:55:58,509 --> 01:55:55,070 it happens then certainly we could make 2154 01:56:01,060 --> 01:55:58,519 it happen for sure we're gonna head 2155 01:56:05,889 --> 01:56:01,070 towards a break one one quick question 2156 01:56:09,669 --> 01:56:05,899 before we get there the the idea makes 2157 01:56:12,969 --> 01:56:09,679 sense for the power plant the pyramid 2158 01:56:16,270 --> 01:56:12,979 was was definitely built with intention 2159 01:56:20,199 --> 01:56:16,280 with engineering specs beyond what was 2160 01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:20,209 needed we understand that but the 2161 01:56:28,149 --> 01:56:24,530 question has to be answered is it's a 2162 01:56:31,750 --> 01:56:28,159 simple one how did primitive Stone Age 2163 01:56:34,239 --> 01:56:31,760 man build this is the answer that they 2164 01:56:38,790 --> 01:56:34,249 didn't build it and it was somebody else 2165 01:56:46,779 --> 01:56:43,659 well Stone Age primitive man didn't have 2166 01:56:53,139 --> 01:56:46,789 the tools that were capable of doing it 2167 01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:53,149 and and so you have for me I would look 2168 01:57:01,479 --> 01:56:56,090 further back into history I think there 2169 01:57:04,290 --> 01:57:01,489 is a you know a gap where I think we 2170 01:57:09,689 --> 01:57:04,300 have to go back to a point in time where 2171 01:57:12,250 --> 01:57:09,699 we had some kind of a Cataclysm and the 2172 01:57:15,909 --> 01:57:12,260 the earth and the population on the 2173 01:57:18,759 --> 01:57:15,919 earth was affected so you know some 2174 01:57:21,219 --> 01:57:18,769 people go back 9,000 years and I think 2175 01:57:23,500 --> 01:57:21,229 Robert Schoch is one of those terrorists 2176 01:57:29,409 --> 01:57:23,510 would talk about in ninety five hundred 2177 01:57:31,479 --> 01:57:29,419 years period but certainly you know if 2178 01:57:34,779 --> 01:57:31,489 such a cataclysm happened there would be 2179 01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:34,789 tremendous destruction I mean we you 2180 01:57:41,070 --> 01:57:37,360 disrupt a you disrupt the 2181 01:57:44,700 --> 01:57:41,080 supply chain for some of our industries 2182 01:57:47,780 --> 01:57:44,710 it's like they would grind to a halt for 2183 01:57:52,260 --> 01:57:47,790 instance I'll give you an example 2184 01:57:56,879 --> 01:57:52,270 aircraft engines use these exotic metals 2185 01:57:59,490 --> 01:57:56,889 and in those exotic metals you have the 2186 01:58:02,070 --> 01:57:59,500 percentage of chromium in order to 2187 01:58:05,370 --> 01:58:02,080 create these metals chromium comes from 2188 01:58:09,899 --> 01:58:05,380 South Africa so if you disrupt the 2189 01:58:12,629 --> 01:58:09,909 supply chain of chromium into our 2190 01:58:14,820 --> 01:58:12,639 industries then that will grab her halt 2191 01:58:18,750 --> 01:58:14,830 or we'd have to go prospecting for 2192 01:58:22,109 --> 01:58:18,760 chromium and other paths in America or 2193 01:58:26,939 --> 01:58:22,119 but then if you've got a the supply 2194 01:58:28,140 --> 01:58:26,949 chain and the and the travel of goods 2195 01:58:32,300 --> 01:58:28,150 around the world 2196 01:58:35,790 --> 01:58:32,310 everything is so entwined and connected 2197 01:58:38,550 --> 01:58:35,800 that it will be such a disruption the 2198 01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:38,560 III and if you're a very large section 2199 01:58:44,609 --> 01:58:42,130 of the world if there was a like an 2200 01:58:47,550 --> 01:58:44,619 extinction event like that has been 2201 01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:47,560 talked about where a you know a vast 2202 01:58:52,890 --> 01:58:50,770 swath of the humanity just told 2203 01:58:57,450 --> 01:58:52,900 disappears from the face of the earth 2204 01:59:01,490 --> 01:58:57,460 then you dead in the water and and if 2205 01:59:06,419 --> 01:59:01,500 you do have you know these artifacts 2206 01:59:08,910 --> 01:59:06,429 still still around you probably haven't 2207 01:59:11,430 --> 01:59:08,920 cannibalize them and poverty is doing 2208 01:59:14,669 --> 01:59:11,440 something different and then you know a 2209 01:59:18,660 --> 01:59:14,679 lot of if you have ferrous metals they 2210 01:59:20,879 --> 01:59:18,670 would they would erode over time 2211 01:59:24,780 --> 01:59:20,889 and I probably wouldn't take 10,000 2212 01:59:28,470 --> 01:59:24,790 years for things to disappear I mean all 2213 01:59:32,430 --> 01:59:28,480 you have to do is look in a ravine in 2214 01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:32,440 India at a little car that's just been 2215 01:59:37,740 --> 01:59:34,690 driven over the hill well yeah we 2216 01:59:40,410 --> 01:59:37,750 noticed early years is right of it left 2217 01:59:45,450 --> 01:59:40,420 we would find ourselves in the Stone Age 2218 01:59:48,479 --> 01:59:45,460 really really really quickly oh it would 2219 01:59:49,859 --> 01:59:48,489 take very little to get us there too as 2220 01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:49,869 well let's take a break right here Chris 2221 01:59:53,430 --> 01:59:50,770 our 2222 01:59:56,070 --> 01:59:53,440 tonight Christopher done night two of 2223 01:59:57,630 --> 01:59:56,080 our Egypt week here on fade to black I'm 2224 01:59:59,370 --> 01:59:57,640 Mary Church and we're gonna pick up 2225 02:00:01,420 --> 01:59:59,380 where we left off when we come back this 2226 02:00:09,870 --> 02:00:01,430 is fade to black stay with us 2227 02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:12,129 everybody's rock alpha the mental guard 2228 02:00:23,610 --> 02:00:20,280 this is kg are a digital broadcasting 2229 02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:23,620 station Salt Lake City Utah Van Buren 2230 02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:26,410 Arkansas poor water quality is a major 2231 02:00:31,020 --> 02:00:28,810 health issue and it's only getting worse 2232 02:00:32,490 --> 02:00:31,030 municipalities can't keep up standards 2233 02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:32,500 have dropped and pollutants are 2234 02:00:37,470 --> 02:00:35,650 increasing where does it all end it ends 2235 02:00:39,180 --> 02:00:37,480 by keeping the pollutants outside of 2236 02:00:41,250 --> 02:00:39,190 your home with hydro 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02:05:10,490 --> 02:05:09,060 huh fry Welcome Back Bay the black I'm 2337 02:05:13,370 --> 02:05:10,500 real super Church what an amazing 2338 02:05:16,670 --> 02:05:13,380 conversation Christopher Dunham's our 2339 02:05:21,500 --> 02:05:16,680 guests night two of our Egypt week here 2340 02:05:24,110 --> 02:05:21,510 on fade to black and now okay Chris I'm 2341 02:05:26,150 --> 02:05:24,120 gonna go there with you right now 2342 02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:26,160 and these are some questions I've never 2343 02:05:34,220 --> 02:05:29,970 heard you not only address but have been 2344 02:05:36,260 --> 02:05:34,230 asked and now when I I've had many 2345 02:05:39,050 --> 02:05:36,270 conversations with with Graham and 2346 02:05:42,500 --> 02:05:39,060 Robert and and John Anthony West over 2347 02:05:44,810 --> 02:05:42,510 the years and one of the things and and 2348 02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:44,820 and Robert Schoch addresses this pretty 2349 02:05:48,830 --> 02:05:45,690 elegantly 2350 02:05:51,890 --> 02:05:48,840 there are two a words we're 2351 02:05:55,550 --> 02:05:51,900 professionals won't go write a one is 2352 02:05:57,680 --> 02:05:55,560 Atlantis and the other one is aliens 2353 02:06:00,770 --> 02:05:57,690 right and they protect themselves the 2354 02:06:03,140 --> 02:06:00,780 it's a zone that they are reticent to go 2355 02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:03,150 into but I'm gonna ask you this directly 2356 02:06:15,410 --> 02:06:05,730 have you ever seen anything strange in 2357 02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:15,420 the sky no I mean not really no no you 2358 02:06:23,780 --> 02:06:20,330 know I know y'all have any any contact 2359 02:06:27,830 --> 02:06:23,790 experiences or see you seen what I I 2360 02:06:38,270 --> 02:06:27,840 think mysterious lights or UFOs would 2361 02:06:41,030 --> 02:06:38,280 you like to oh yeah I mean you need to 2362 02:06:43,610 --> 02:06:41,040 come hang out with us the the invitation 2363 02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:43,620 is open you need to come out and we'll 2364 02:06:48,500 --> 02:06:46,050 break out them the night vision and and 2365 02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:48,510 and just go out and and experience that 2366 02:06:55,550 --> 02:06:51,210 together because it's an epiphany when 2367 02:06:59,000 --> 02:06:55,560 it happens and you your brain gets 2368 02:07:01,580 --> 02:06:59,010 confused because you're assuming the 2369 02:07:04,430 --> 02:07:01,590 safe zone of trying to explain it away 2370 02:07:07,100 --> 02:07:04,440 as a satellite or you know it's it's 2371 02:07:09,350 --> 02:07:07,110 it's terrestrial and then you know that 2372 02:07:10,940 --> 02:07:09,360 it's not and it's great when I see 2373 02:07:14,850 --> 02:07:10,950 somebody go through that the first time 2374 02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:18,450 you should know I'm a I'm a bond skeptic 2375 02:07:25,439 --> 02:07:22,210 I know I know see you're primed and 2376 02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:25,449 ready yeah your victim your future 2377 02:07:32,189 --> 02:07:29,170 victim oh yeah absolutely and we will do 2378 02:07:36,270 --> 02:07:32,199 it we will get that out of the way but 2379 02:07:38,580 --> 02:07:36,280 what about the the ancient alien theory 2380 02:07:40,740 --> 02:07:38,590 and a hypothesis that has been laid out 2381 02:07:43,379 --> 02:07:40,750 certainly since erich von daniken but 2382 02:07:46,740 --> 02:07:43,389 but today it's part of our pop culture 2383 02:07:50,720 --> 02:07:46,750 it's part of what what makes us us today 2384 02:07:57,350 --> 02:07:50,730 where are you in in in that position I 2385 02:08:01,830 --> 02:07:57,360 think I am closer to Robert Schoch than 2386 02:08:06,180 --> 02:08:01,840 then define people who you know frequent 2387 02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:06,190 not that particular program the I am I 2388 02:08:15,629 --> 02:08:13,690 mean the aliens and Atlantis I I have 2389 02:08:19,740 --> 02:08:15,639 too much respect for the Egyptian 2390 02:08:23,910 --> 02:08:19,750 culture and what they have suffered over 2391 02:08:28,530 --> 02:08:23,920 the years in terms of people coming in 2392 02:08:30,149 --> 02:08:28,540 and stripping them their heritage away 2393 02:08:34,169 --> 02:08:30,159 from them and you know these were 2394 02:08:35,790 --> 02:08:34,179 earlier earlier conquerors you know 2395 02:08:39,149 --> 02:08:35,800 whether it be the French and the British 2396 02:08:42,709 --> 02:08:39,159 and the hauling off their artifacts that 2397 02:08:45,540 --> 02:08:42,719 now said in museums all over the world 2398 02:08:48,300 --> 02:08:45,550 and which you know the Egyptians feel 2399 02:08:53,100 --> 02:08:48,310 like they were you know they were badly 2400 02:08:56,129 --> 02:08:53,110 done too and and so there is kind of 2401 02:08:59,820 --> 02:08:56,139 like a after the New Age Marauders who 2402 02:09:02,399 --> 02:08:59,830 come in and and they want to strip them 2403 02:09:05,910 --> 02:09:02,409 of their cultural heritage by saying 2404 02:09:08,070 --> 02:09:05,920 that they were not responsible for their 2405 02:09:11,939 --> 02:09:08,080 ancestors were not responsible for what 2406 02:09:17,370 --> 02:09:11,949 exists in Egypt and do you bear some 2407 02:09:23,700 --> 02:09:17,380 responsibility in that view though you 2408 02:09:28,139 --> 02:09:23,710 know it I I I may be seen to bear some 2409 02:09:33,810 --> 02:09:28,149 responsibility and that I was asked to 2410 02:09:39,959 --> 02:09:33,820 beyond ancient aliens and you're my you 2411 02:09:44,399 --> 02:09:39,969 know my mode of operation a policy has 2412 02:09:49,229 --> 02:09:44,409 always been I'm not going to you know 2413 02:09:53,189 --> 02:09:49,239 I'm not going to judge or insult 2414 02:09:55,830 --> 02:09:53,199 somebody by saying well if you're going 2415 02:10:00,119 --> 02:09:55,840 to be talking if your belief is in say 2416 02:10:02,189 --> 02:10:00,129 Bible studies or you know by Biblical 2417 02:10:06,299 --> 02:10:02,199 Archaeology then I'm not going to share 2418 02:10:09,209 --> 02:10:06,309 my work with you or if you if your 2419 02:10:11,250 --> 02:10:09,219 belief is there everything was done by 2420 02:10:14,159 --> 02:10:11,260 ancient aliens that I'm not going to 2421 02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:14,169 share your work with but I do like to be 2422 02:10:20,369 --> 02:10:17,530 able to provide my opinion on that and 2423 02:10:22,679 --> 02:10:20,379 when I was asked to do ancient aliens I 2424 02:10:26,009 --> 02:10:22,689 asked them if I could comment on that 2425 02:10:27,989 --> 02:10:26,019 and give the mic on your ass and I I you 2426 02:10:33,989 --> 02:10:27,999 know I was very clear and in the 2427 02:10:38,459 --> 02:10:33,999 interview that it's it's he can't just 2428 02:10:41,869 --> 02:10:38,469 solely say everything is it was done by 2429 02:10:44,759 --> 02:10:41,879 aliens and you know that there are other 2430 02:10:48,569 --> 02:10:44,769 possible reasons why these artifacts 2431 02:10:50,939 --> 02:10:48,579 exist and and so you just can't you know 2432 02:10:54,089 --> 02:10:50,949 just lump it all in wall all 2433 02:10:56,369 --> 02:10:54,099 encompassing idea because I think you 2434 02:10:58,759 --> 02:10:56,379 make a lot of mistakes then you start 2435 02:11:02,850 --> 02:10:58,769 throwing everything but the bathtub in 2436 02:11:05,009 --> 02:11:02,860 into into the formation of this kind of 2437 02:11:07,919 --> 02:11:05,019 ideology and let you know they were 2438 02:11:10,979 --> 02:11:07,929 happy for me to comment on that but I 2439 02:11:12,719 --> 02:11:10,989 say happy I'm not sure well happy well I 2440 02:11:15,479 --> 02:11:12,729 guess I do know how happy they were 2441 02:11:16,259 --> 02:11:15,489 because my comments didn't make it to 2442 02:11:19,109 --> 02:11:16,269 the show 2443 02:11:22,739 --> 02:11:19,119 I ended up on the cutting room floor so 2444 02:11:27,750 --> 02:11:22,749 huh but I'm not yeah I would say I'm 2445 02:11:32,479 --> 02:11:27,760 more in I'm I want to I want to build up 2446 02:11:35,580 --> 02:11:32,489 the Egyptians in terms of their 2447 02:11:38,609 --> 02:11:35,590 self-esteem and pride in that in their 2448 02:11:41,910 --> 02:11:38,619 cultural heritage and I think that when 2449 02:11:45,450 --> 02:11:41,920 you go there and you claim that 2450 02:11:47,670 --> 02:11:45,460 their ancestors were not responsible for 2451 02:11:50,550 --> 02:11:47,680 that work that it was Outsiders that 2452 02:11:53,880 --> 02:11:50,560 came in and done it then you've got you 2453 02:11:56,430 --> 02:11:53,890 you lose you lose them and I don't want 2454 02:11:58,650 --> 02:11:56,440 to lose the the interest of the 2455 02:12:02,340 --> 02:11:58,660 Egyptians I want to nurture it and 2456 02:12:04,230 --> 02:12:02,350 encourage it certainly and everything is 2457 02:12:06,420 --> 02:12:04,240 taught we understand that you were 2458 02:12:09,050 --> 02:12:06,430 taught I was taught everybody was taught 2459 02:12:14,460 --> 02:12:09,060 the ancient Egyptians were taught and 2460 02:12:16,890 --> 02:12:14,470 whether that information it came to them 2461 02:12:19,050 --> 02:12:16,900 to allow their civilization to be 2462 02:12:22,110 --> 02:12:19,060 upright and functional you know 2463 02:12:25,740 --> 02:12:22,120 seemingly overnight at 3000 BC whether 2464 02:12:28,980 --> 02:12:25,750 it was from an ancient high technology 2465 02:12:30,900 --> 02:12:28,990 civilization from 1020 thousand years 2466 02:12:32,820 --> 02:12:30,910 ago and you have some stragglers that 2467 02:12:35,910 --> 02:12:32,830 came in and shared that information or 2468 02:12:39,330 --> 02:12:35,920 if they came from the stars or it was 2469 02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:39,340 channeled or it was divine it doesn't 2470 02:12:44,910 --> 02:12:42,930 really matter to me does it that the 2471 02:12:48,540 --> 02:12:44,920 Egyptians got the information from 2472 02:12:51,060 --> 02:12:48,550 somewhere just like we get our 2473 02:12:55,110 --> 02:12:51,070 information and so from somewhere when 2474 02:12:57,440 --> 02:12:55,120 we're designing inventing and building 2475 02:13:02,450 --> 02:12:57,450 out products right right I mean I think 2476 02:13:04,920 --> 02:13:02,460 you know the the Cartesian view on 2477 02:13:09,240 --> 02:13:04,930 separating you know the material from 2478 02:13:16,350 --> 02:13:09,250 the spiritual in terms of inspiration 2479 02:13:17,940 --> 02:13:16,360 and design I I don't think he's I don't 2480 02:13:21,060 --> 02:13:17,950 know I don't think he can take spirit 2481 02:13:24,450 --> 02:13:21,070 off the table but it is creating a bit 2482 02:13:27,480 --> 02:13:24,460 of a dichotomy where people think well 2483 02:13:30,210 --> 02:13:27,490 if you are spiritual then you're not 2484 02:13:33,870 --> 02:13:30,220 material or if you're a materialism and 2485 02:13:39,360 --> 02:13:33,880 you can't can't be spiritual but I I 2486 02:13:43,190 --> 02:13:39,370 know I've met more practical engineer 2487 02:13:45,300 --> 02:13:43,200 types and technical types who are 2488 02:13:47,960 --> 02:13:45,310 spiritual more of the more of those than 2489 02:13:51,890 --> 02:13:47,970 people who claim to be spiritual and you 2490 02:13:55,899 --> 02:13:51,900 know in the New Age kind of movement so 2491 02:13:59,600 --> 02:13:55,909 and I I see 2492 02:14:04,450 --> 02:13:59,610 I don't see I don't see a difference I 2493 02:14:08,600 --> 02:14:04,460 mean everything is based on on on spirit 2494 02:14:12,500 --> 02:14:08,610 everything that exists is is produced 2495 02:14:17,540 --> 02:14:12,510 through inspired thought and and worked 2496 02:14:21,529 --> 02:14:17,550 and how can you separate you know the 2497 02:14:24,379 --> 02:14:21,539 spirit or the spiritual nature from from 2498 02:14:26,779 --> 02:14:24,389 those activities well you you say 2499 02:14:29,540 --> 02:14:26,789 something very interesting when you 2500 02:14:32,959 --> 02:14:29,550 suggest you know it just came to me the 2501 02:14:35,899 --> 02:14:32,969 idea for the Giza power plant I I had a 2502 02:14:39,890 --> 02:14:35,909 vision the you know green hieroglyphics 2503 02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:39,900 that that's a very spiritual moment to 2504 02:14:48,080 --> 02:14:45,530 me but then and then I'll your 2505 02:14:51,009 --> 02:14:48,090 presentation I don't know if you realize 2506 02:14:56,240 --> 02:14:51,019 this or not but your presentation and 2507 02:14:59,779 --> 02:14:56,250 the Ramses statue and its symmetry it's 2508 02:15:01,370 --> 02:14:59,789 3d Ness its spherical Ness and and its 2509 02:15:05,120 --> 02:15:01,380 construction from an engineering 2510 02:15:09,049 --> 02:15:05,130 standpoint is so compelling and so good 2511 02:15:15,370 --> 02:15:09,059 Chris that it causes people like me to 2512 02:15:21,319 --> 02:15:18,770 yeah and I can understand that I mean 2513 02:15:25,819 --> 02:15:21,329 III don't I can understand I don't have 2514 02:15:29,959 --> 02:15:25,829 a problem with that you know how good 2515 02:15:33,770 --> 02:15:29,969 that was right and the research in the 2516 02:15:36,200 --> 02:15:33,780 way that you have presented this I have 2517 02:15:38,779 --> 02:15:36,210 gone back and reviewed your 2518 02:15:42,799 --> 02:15:38,789 presentations on this over and over 2519 02:15:44,839 --> 02:15:42,809 again and flipping that face over right 2520 02:15:49,450 --> 02:15:44,849 and looking at it I can't even tell 2521 02:15:53,569 --> 02:15:49,460 which is which is right and wrong and 2522 02:15:56,720 --> 02:15:53,579 and it is so good that you have caused 2523 02:15:59,120 --> 02:15:56,730 people to go back and rethink their 2524 02:16:00,830 --> 02:15:59,130 they're their own mind the way that they 2525 02:16:05,240 --> 02:16:00,840 have been convinced over the years year 2526 02:16:09,760 --> 02:16:05,250 it's your fault man well I've had a lot 2527 02:16:14,510 --> 02:16:09,770 of help it's not just me I yeah I mean 2528 02:16:18,130 --> 02:16:14,520 I've had an enormous amount of help 2529 02:16:21,400 --> 02:16:18,140 along my path and I've been blessed to 2530 02:16:24,920 --> 02:16:21,410 have people come into my life who are 2531 02:16:29,360 --> 02:16:24,930 extremely intelligent extremely talented 2532 02:16:31,820 --> 02:16:29,370 and knowledgeable scientists physicists 2533 02:16:34,850 --> 02:16:31,830 engineers that have helped me along the 2534 02:16:37,280 --> 02:16:34,860 way and are still helping me I mean the 2535 02:16:39,799 --> 02:16:37,290 team I have now I can't I can't say 2536 02:16:42,320 --> 02:16:39,809 enough about them they're just brilliant 2537 02:16:46,100 --> 02:16:42,330 people in fact you should have them out 2538 02:16:49,009 --> 02:16:46,110 and talk to talk to some of my well you 2539 02:16:50,270 --> 02:16:49,019 know my research associates absolutely 2540 02:16:57,129 --> 02:16:50,280 it blow you away 2541 02:17:01,520 --> 02:16:57,139 absolutely blow me away you know there's 2542 02:17:04,520 --> 02:17:01,530 there's one point and Manu and I touched 2543 02:17:08,509 --> 02:17:04,530 upon it last night I try to revisit this 2544 02:17:12,980 --> 02:17:08,519 once a month or so but there's one point 2545 02:17:16,879 --> 02:17:12,990 it's a large one that I can't convince 2546 02:17:20,870 --> 02:17:16,889 myself up and that is when you compile 2547 02:17:23,120 --> 02:17:20,880 the logistics on top of each other the 2548 02:17:25,040 --> 02:17:23,130 20 years and two and half million blocks 2549 02:17:27,620 --> 02:17:25,050 and two minutes per stone that's been 2550 02:17:30,379 --> 02:17:27,630 run in the ground but it's a very valid 2551 02:17:36,980 --> 02:17:30,389 point but if you back off of that and 2552 02:17:40,129 --> 02:17:36,990 you go to 500 miles to Aswan and you 2553 02:17:42,860 --> 02:17:40,139 know 130 granite blocks that that 2554 02:17:46,040 --> 02:17:42,870 somehow to had to get transported and 2555 02:17:48,140 --> 02:17:46,050 quarried that takes time and it doesn't 2556 02:17:50,180 --> 02:17:48,150 fit into the 20-year window if you're 2557 02:17:52,850 --> 02:17:50,190 dragging those blocks across the desert 2558 02:17:56,089 --> 02:17:52,860 for 500 miles at a foot per minute 2559 02:17:59,390 --> 02:17:56,099 you're looking at 50 to 100 years right 2560 02:18:02,660 --> 02:17:59,400 well that that that takes that out and 2561 02:18:06,140 --> 02:18:02,670 if you threw it in a boat or barge the 2562 02:18:09,140 --> 02:18:06,150 barge would sink with a 70-ton granite 2563 02:18:10,220 --> 02:18:09,150 block in it if so there's that part and 2564 02:18:12,230 --> 02:18:10,230 then you have 2565 02:18:14,209 --> 02:18:12,240 the amount of people that would have to 2566 02:18:17,690 --> 02:18:14,219 be involved that would have to be fed 2567 02:18:19,730 --> 02:18:17,700 and clothed and and worked not only for 2568 02:18:23,600 --> 02:18:19,740 the Great Pyramid for all of the 2569 02:18:27,620 --> 02:18:23,610 pyramids over a 200 year period and the 2570 02:18:30,709 --> 02:18:27,630 logistics just don't fit we start to 2571 02:18:33,230 --> 02:18:30,719 calculate thousands of years not not 2572 02:18:35,900 --> 02:18:33,240 twenty years per pyramid it just doesn't 2573 02:18:38,240 --> 02:18:35,910 fit that's the way you're an engineer 2574 02:18:39,740 --> 02:18:38,250 you look at all of these things when you 2575 02:18:42,470 --> 02:18:39,750 go into a project 2576 02:18:45,860 --> 02:18:42,480 it just doesn't how do you how do you 2577 02:18:50,810 --> 02:18:45,870 try to explain this in your own mindset 2578 02:18:52,700 --> 02:18:50,820 or can you oh my god no I don't think we 2579 02:18:54,950 --> 02:18:52,710 have enough time tonight I know right 2580 02:18:58,400 --> 02:18:54,960 you're gonna have to reschedule me up 2581 02:19:02,180 --> 02:18:58,410 because I that that is a that is a 2582 02:19:04,310 --> 02:19:02,190 fascinating fascinating subject and I 2583 02:19:06,470 --> 02:19:04,320 was actually chomping at the bit to talk 2584 02:19:09,590 --> 02:19:06,480 talk to you about that after listening 2585 02:19:12,500 --> 02:19:09,600 to your interview with my new which was 2586 02:19:15,709 --> 02:19:12,510 absolutely marvelous interview what a 2587 02:19:19,760 --> 02:19:15,719 wonderful man yes he's amazing amazing 2588 02:19:25,730 --> 02:19:19,770 guy and I just loved every minute of it 2589 02:19:27,230 --> 02:19:25,740 but that subject yeah it I don't think 2590 02:19:29,990 --> 02:19:27,240 we have enough time give me well let's 2591 02:19:32,990 --> 02:19:30,000 let's let's let's visit this I mean how 2592 02:19:36,080 --> 02:19:33,000 how is I think part of it 2593 02:19:39,320 --> 02:19:36,090 Chris's researchers like yourself and 2594 02:19:42,950 --> 02:19:39,330 others are giving us the knowledge that 2595 02:19:46,610 --> 02:19:42,960 we didn't have 20 30 40 50 years ago to 2596 02:19:49,160 --> 02:19:46,620 to digest this but I think today we're 2597 02:19:53,421 --> 02:19:49,170 starting to understand that it just from 2598 02:20:01,160 --> 02:19:53,431 a logistical point of view there was not 2599 02:20:03,200 --> 02:20:01,170 enough time well I would disagree oh wow 2600 02:20:09,020 --> 02:20:03,210 let's go let's go 2601 02:20:10,850 --> 02:20:09,030 perfect answer mister dunne no I mean it 2602 02:20:15,171 --> 02:20:10,860 depends on how you look at a project 2603 02:20:17,950 --> 02:20:15,181 right okay I'll get I'll give you a an 2604 02:20:23,700 --> 02:20:21,560 we talked about the the Great Pyramid 2605 02:20:29,639 --> 02:20:23,710 being leveled within 2606 02:20:31,439 --> 02:20:29,649 7/8 of an inch over 13 acres and then we 2607 02:20:37,410 --> 02:20:31,449 talk about well how were they able to 2608 02:20:40,500 --> 02:20:37,420 achieve that precision and and build all 2609 02:20:44,429 --> 02:20:40,510 those courses of limestone with this 2610 02:20:47,729 --> 02:20:44,439 perfect exterior you know the casing 2611 02:20:52,349 --> 02:20:47,739 stone it would take a tremendous amount 2612 02:20:56,300 --> 02:20:52,359 of time and the if you are building the 2613 02:21:01,050 --> 02:20:56,310 pyramid from the inside out and you're 2614 02:21:03,269 --> 02:21:01,060 you have to level the entire site to 2615 02:21:08,370 --> 02:21:03,279 within those tolerances then you've got 2616 02:21:10,650 --> 02:21:08,380 an enormous amount of work but I don't 2617 02:21:16,590 --> 02:21:10,660 think we're thinking about the the 2618 02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:16,600 problem the correct way and engineering 2619 02:21:23,939 --> 02:21:19,930 in till design machine designed if you 2620 02:21:27,479 --> 02:21:23,949 are to say we were to look at that the 2621 02:21:32,340 --> 02:21:27,489 Great Pyramid like a machine or a 2622 02:21:34,889 --> 02:21:32,350 collection of parts that you had to fit 2623 02:21:38,099 --> 02:21:34,899 together and come up with that final 2624 02:21:42,809 --> 02:21:38,109 product where you have 7/8 of an inch 2625 02:21:46,200 --> 02:21:42,819 over 13 acres were lined to true north 2626 02:21:50,150 --> 02:21:46,210 within 3 minutes of a degree and then 2627 02:21:54,960 --> 02:21:50,160 have that you know that pyramid angle of 2628 02:21:59,820 --> 02:21:54,970 52 minutes 50 51 51 degrees 51 minutes 2629 02:22:02,370 --> 02:21:59,830 14 seconds then you would have it would 2630 02:22:06,809 --> 02:22:02,380 be quite a puzzle but you can simplify 2631 02:22:10,559 --> 02:22:06,819 it very much if you say okay what we 2632 02:22:12,990 --> 02:22:10,569 don't know how far that the pavement 2633 02:22:17,519 --> 02:22:13,000 extends under those under those casing 2634 02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:17,529 blocks and if I was to design that the 2635 02:22:27,240 --> 02:22:22,210 pyramid the the pavement where the 2636 02:22:33,389 --> 02:22:27,250 casing blocks said would only go as far 2637 02:22:35,849 --> 02:22:33,399 as maybe two to both blocks in in other 2638 02:22:37,320 --> 02:22:35,859 words only the casing stones would need 2639 02:22:42,150 --> 02:22:37,330 to sit on such a person 2640 02:22:42,960 --> 02:22:42,160 a flat surface I'm with you I'm with you 2641 02:22:47,250 --> 02:22:42,970 okay 2642 02:22:50,011 --> 02:22:47,260 you follow me I am only the casing 2643 02:22:51,960 --> 02:22:50,021 stones and then if you say are you were 2644 02:22:57,270 --> 02:22:51,970 going to build your casing stones very 2645 02:22:59,750 --> 02:22:57,280 very precisely if you're going to be 2646 02:23:02,640 --> 02:22:59,760 building the pyramid from the inside out 2647 02:23:03,990 --> 02:23:02,650 then you would have an accumulation of 2648 02:23:08,370 --> 02:23:04,000 error and you'd have all kinds of 2649 02:23:10,770 --> 02:23:08,380 problems but if you cut your casing 2650 02:23:13,620 --> 02:23:10,780 stones very precisely and you set them 2651 02:23:16,830 --> 02:23:13,630 down on that level pavement now remember 2652 02:23:19,860 --> 02:23:16,840 that you're leaving the rest of the 2653 02:23:22,230 --> 02:23:19,870 bedrock untouched so you have and 2654 02:23:25,920 --> 02:23:22,240 actually that that is true that they do 2655 02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:25,930 have a rise in in the bedrock in the 2656 02:23:33,240 --> 02:23:30,010 center yes Center yes I think that rise 2657 02:23:38,100 --> 02:23:33,250 goes further out to you know to the 2658 02:23:41,940 --> 02:23:38,110 house out of courses but if you build it 2659 02:23:45,450 --> 02:23:41,950 by just erected just placing the casing 2660 02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:45,460 stones first which you would need to 2661 02:23:54,360 --> 02:23:49,690 align and lay down very precisely and 2662 02:23:57,330 --> 02:23:54,370 you know but them up together and then 2663 02:23:59,040 --> 02:23:57,340 just do it do the outside make sure 2664 02:24:02,790 --> 02:23:59,050 everything is aligned and then you 2665 02:24:06,120 --> 02:24:02,800 backfill it with blocks to fill in the 2666 02:24:10,740 --> 02:24:06,130 the core masonry yeah I've thought about 2667 02:24:13,560 --> 02:24:10,750 this and I've seen some ideas with this 2668 02:24:15,390 --> 02:24:13,570 where the foundation stones don't go 2669 02:24:18,600 --> 02:24:15,400 straight through it's just it's it's a 2670 02:24:20,430 --> 02:24:18,610 like a picture frame right and that 2671 02:24:22,980 --> 02:24:20,440 that's on the outside and then they're 2672 02:24:24,900 --> 02:24:22,990 building from the outside in and there 2673 02:24:27,301 --> 02:24:24,910 are a concern with any tolerances 2674 02:24:31,530 --> 02:24:27,311 anywhere because it's rubble its dirt 2675 02:24:34,890 --> 02:24:31,540 its fill rock and and it's actually very 2676 02:24:37,500 --> 02:24:34,900 very very simple it's beautiful on the 2677 02:24:39,330 --> 02:24:37,510 outside on the inside it's garbage 2678 02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:39,340 right and that's what you're suggesting 2679 02:24:44,250 --> 02:24:42,010 and then if you bill I would say well 2680 02:24:46,801 --> 02:24:44,260 that garbage but he you know it's full 2681 02:24:49,740 --> 02:24:46,811 or they were they were calling I mean 2682 02:24:50,480 --> 02:24:49,750 they could they could place the casing 2683 02:24:52,310 --> 02:24:50,490 stones very 2684 02:24:55,011 --> 02:24:52,320 nicely the same height all around and 2685 02:24:58,810 --> 02:24:55,021 then call for blocks to back it up back 2686 02:25:01,341 --> 02:24:58,820 it up and then just build lay them down 2687 02:25:05,051 --> 02:25:01,351 true - towards the center 2688 02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:05,061 yeah yes but that name for Talmud also 2689 02:25:15,261 --> 02:25:10,250 builds a very very precise shafts and 2690 02:25:20,330 --> 02:25:15,271 passageways before they backed those 2691 02:25:22,360 --> 02:25:20,340 features up with core masonry - yeah and 2692 02:25:25,761 --> 02:25:22,370 I talked about this last night with Manu 2693 02:25:26,450 --> 02:25:25,771 and I know that you listened to the to 2694 02:25:32,261 --> 02:25:26,460 the show last night 2695 02:25:36,140 --> 02:25:32,271 the if we accept that it was built and 2696 02:25:39,470 --> 02:25:36,150 however it was built I still go back to 2697 02:25:42,801 --> 02:25:39,480 the the the very confusing issues that I 2698 02:25:45,200 --> 02:25:42,811 have with the shafts with the King's 2699 02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:45,210 Chamber with the Queen's Chamber with 2700 02:25:53,570 --> 02:25:50,010 the Grand Gallery and how you have to 2701 02:25:57,290 --> 02:25:53,580 build around those perfectly straight 2702 02:26:02,330 --> 02:25:57,300 shafts it's an engineering nightmare if 2703 02:26:04,070 --> 02:26:02,340 I presented you Chris with this idea 2704 02:26:07,341 --> 02:26:04,080 today you would tell me to go take a 2705 02:26:19,100 --> 02:26:07,351 hike what's your idea dad to build a 2706 02:26:21,620 --> 02:26:19,110 Great Pyramid you know that's I don't 2707 02:26:23,990 --> 02:26:21,630 know how they did the shafts I don't 2708 02:26:25,730 --> 02:26:24,000 know how they did the Grand Gallery it's 2709 02:26:27,921 --> 02:26:25,740 like what came first the chicken or the 2710 02:26:29,930 --> 02:26:27,931 egg and I've almost now I've almost 2711 02:26:32,631 --> 02:26:29,940 imagined them building the Grand Gallery 2712 02:26:34,310 --> 02:26:32,641 out like it was some kind of temple 2713 02:26:35,930 --> 02:26:34,320 first and they just built the pyramid 2714 02:26:38,360 --> 02:26:35,940 around it and filled it in 2715 02:26:40,330 --> 02:26:38,370 well the design of the shafts and the 2716 02:26:43,730 --> 02:26:40,340 way they were built they would have 2717 02:26:47,990 --> 02:26:43,740 created a plane at the angle that they 2718 02:26:52,160 --> 02:26:48,000 they designed and while while you it was 2719 02:26:56,780 --> 02:26:52,170 still open to to the sky the the shafts 2720 02:26:58,730 --> 02:26:56,790 actually have the block with a channel 2721 02:27:02,180 --> 02:26:58,740 running through it upturned and sitting 2722 02:27:03,450 --> 02:27:02,190 on a flat surface and a flat surface you 2723 02:27:09,330 --> 02:27:03,460 could have aligned 2724 02:27:11,309 --> 02:27:09,340 you know the an open in the open space 2725 02:27:14,219 --> 02:27:11,319 without the constraints of saying okay 2726 02:27:16,889 --> 02:27:14,229 how do we do this with with these very 2727 02:27:19,920 --> 02:27:16,899 very small openings we so have to slot 2728 02:27:22,320 --> 02:27:19,930 the blocks even if those slots were big 2729 02:27:25,469 --> 02:27:22,330 slots and you blocked him in on the 2730 02:27:28,139 --> 02:27:25,479 inside with smaller blocks which appears 2731 02:27:30,689 --> 02:27:28,149 in in gate and brings video that that 2732 02:27:32,939 --> 02:27:30,699 was indeed the case I see all of that 2733 02:27:37,679 --> 02:27:32,949 but you still have to slot the larger 2734 02:27:39,570 --> 02:27:37,689 blocks yeah it could be done I mean it 2735 02:27:42,870 --> 02:27:39,580 could be done I'm not saying it would be 2736 02:27:45,210 --> 02:27:42,880 easy but it could be done 2737 02:27:51,750 --> 02:27:45,220 I want to thank you when can I get you 2738 02:27:54,059 --> 02:27:51,760 back on the show that's the right answer 2739 02:28:00,360 --> 02:27:54,069 are you are you heading over to Egypt 2740 02:28:03,960 --> 02:28:00,370 again I have a habit or that I'm taking 2741 02:28:08,790 --> 02:28:03,970 and taking people to Egypt in March of 2742 02:28:11,429 --> 02:28:08,800 2019 there is a link on my on my page on 2743 02:28:14,820 --> 02:28:11,439 my front page it's the lost technology 2744 02:28:15,240 --> 02:28:14,830 store of Egypt I think I've got it back 2745 02:28:17,189 --> 02:28:15,250 to you 2746 02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:17,199 right I've got it right here and the 2747 02:28:21,710 --> 02:28:18,850 links are up at Jimmy Church radio.com 2748 02:28:24,689 --> 02:28:21,720 will put it up in Twitter right yeah 2749 02:28:26,849 --> 02:28:24,699 yeah and and and my pleasure Chris and 2750 02:28:29,309 --> 02:28:26,859 let's don't take five years to do it 2751 02:28:30,990 --> 02:28:29,319 again if you're heading over to Egypt in 2752 02:28:34,500 --> 02:28:31,000 March then we'll get you on the show 2753 02:28:38,880 --> 02:28:34,510 before that and then when you return how 2754 02:28:40,800 --> 02:28:38,890 is that any better pleasure thank you so 2755 02:28:43,650 --> 02:28:40,810 much fascinating conversation Chris and 2756 02:28:46,439 --> 02:28:43,660 again for me and the community just 2757 02:28:49,380 --> 02:28:46,449 thank you for everything that you do and 2758 02:28:52,710 --> 02:28:49,390 continue to do you are so important to 2759 02:28:54,929 --> 02:28:52,720 all of us thank you so much sir oh thank 2760 02:28:57,019 --> 02:28:54,939 you very much Jimmy I appreciate it son 2761 02:29:00,500 --> 02:28:57,029 happy birthday thank you so much Chris 2762 02:29:03,030 --> 02:29:00,510 al when are you on Twitter 2763 02:29:06,150 --> 02:29:03,040 hey you know I have a Twitter account 2764 02:29:08,969 --> 02:29:06,160 but I don't Twitter I mean I I don't 2765 02:29:14,461 --> 02:29:08,979 post on it you don't tweet okay there I 2766 02:29:19,680 --> 02:29:16,441 oh but Chris you are amazing thank you 2767 02:29:21,871 --> 02:29:19,690 so much what a great conversation thank 2768 02:29:24,961 --> 02:29:21,881 you thank you so much Christopher done 2769 02:29:28,411 --> 02:29:24,971 his website of course is Giza power 2770 02:29:31,680 --> 02:29:28,421 dot-com all of the information for his 2771 02:29:34,791 --> 02:29:31,690 tour in March is right there and the 2772 02:29:38,071 --> 02:29:34,801 links are over at Jimmy Church radio.com 2773 02:29:41,100 --> 02:29:38,081 and I'm going to take a quick break and 2774 02:29:43,411 --> 02:29:41,110 I'll swing back around and open up the 2775 02:29:44,911 --> 02:29:43,421 phone lines and we'll chat with 2776 02:29:46,261 --> 02:29:44,921 everybody all right I'll be right back 2777 02:29:48,480 --> 02:29:46,271 this is fade to black 2778 02:29:51,241 --> 02:29:48,490 can follow me on Twitter edge a search 2779 02:29:53,220 --> 02:29:51,251 radio and of course email is jimmy at 2780 02:29:56,970 --> 02:29:53,230 jimmy church radio calm what a great 2781 02:29:58,230 --> 02:29:56,980 conversation Giza power dot-com I'm your 2782 02:29:58,600 --> 02:29:58,240 super Church I'll be right back stay 2783 02:30:22,140 --> 02:29:58,610 with us 2784 02:30:24,610 --> 02:30:22,150 [Music] 2785 02:30:27,490 --> 02:30:24,620 volunteer and you are listening to my 2786 02:30:33,610 --> 02:30:27,500 boy Jimmy Church on Jimmy Church radio 2787 02:30:42,720 --> 02:30:33,620 calm despite popular opinion reading a 2788 02:30:48,880 --> 02:30:47,020 hurricanes earthquakes wildfires this 2789 02:30:51,340 --> 02:30:48,890 year we've experienced more than our 2790 02:30:53,650 --> 02:30:51,350 fair 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he's never seen a UFO 2874 02:35:17,920 --> 02:35:13,419 wants to write and his support of the 2875 02:35:21,519 --> 02:35:17,930 Egyptian culture is paramount and that 2876 02:35:26,529 --> 02:35:21,529 is very very very impressive right there 2877 02:35:28,630 --> 02:35:26,539 and the the the the non tolerance theory 2878 02:35:32,109 --> 02:35:28,640 right you build it from the outside high 2879 02:35:33,760 --> 02:35:32,119 high high degree of tolerances and then 2880 02:35:37,479 --> 02:35:33,770 you work your way in where you're not 2881 02:35:39,249 --> 02:35:37,489 worried about that right that's that's 2882 02:35:42,939 --> 02:35:39,259 pretty interesting you only need to 2883 02:35:47,050 --> 02:35:42,949 worry about the outer layers being level 2884 02:35:50,260 --> 02:35:47,060 and square and true and and the casing 2885 02:35:53,739 --> 02:35:50,270 stones but on the inside it's all about 2886 02:35:56,529 --> 02:35:53,749 speed right and getting it done a very 2887 02:35:57,279 --> 02:35:56,539 very very cool conversation thank you so 2888 02:36:01,329 --> 02:35:57,289 much Chris 2889 02:36:04,630 --> 02:36:01,339 and again it's kiseop our.com and his 2890 02:36:06,279 --> 02:36:04,640 tour is in March and the information is 2891 02:36:09,189 --> 02:36:06,289 right there over at his website let's go 2892 02:36:11,590 --> 02:36:09,199 to the phones go to area code two to 2893 02:36:15,399 --> 02:36:11,600 five you're up first I'm fade to black 2894 02:36:18,849 --> 02:36:15,409 who's calling hey Jimmy Palazzo how are 2895 02:36:21,039 --> 02:36:18,859 you doing hi Joe how are you man I'm 2896 02:36:25,869 --> 02:36:21,049 doing fantastic I just hit 51 the other 2897 02:36:28,090 --> 02:36:25,879 day and happy 55 to you 51 all right all 2898 02:36:31,899 --> 02:36:28,100 right yeah you vote you cross the 2899 02:36:33,939 --> 02:36:31,909 threshold last year yeah yeah it's 2900 02:36:44,229 --> 02:36:33,949 pretty dramatic when you go from 49 to 2901 02:36:46,840 --> 02:36:44,239 50 you know I see those commercials if 2902 02:36:49,239 --> 02:36:46,850 you are over 55 I'm like man I'm not 2903 02:36:51,340 --> 02:36:49,249 there yet but hey Here I am so all right 2904 02:36:54,370 --> 02:36:51,350 Joe what's on your mind today my friend 2905 02:36:58,120 --> 02:36:54,380 I got a mister done is he still around 2906 02:37:00,370 --> 02:36:58,130 no he has departed he's out east man in 2907 02:37:02,139 --> 02:37:00,380 it it's pretty late at night I didn't I 2908 02:37:06,040 --> 02:37:02,149 don't want to keep them any further I 2909 02:37:07,840 --> 02:37:06,050 was tempted to though my question was 2910 02:37:10,150 --> 02:37:07,850 regarding the you might want to put your 2911 02:37:12,810 --> 02:37:10,160 finger on the bleep button here cuz I'm 2912 02:37:15,639 --> 02:37:12,820 gonna try to say it but the shift desk 2913 02:37:17,980 --> 02:37:15,649 wasn't discussed and I was curious if he 2914 02:37:22,360 --> 02:37:17,990 had any knowledge of what it was used 2915 02:37:25,000 --> 02:37:22,370 for any hypothesis or if he had seen any 2916 02:37:26,650 --> 02:37:25,010 other devices that looked like they were 2917 02:37:27,820 --> 02:37:26,660 involved in manufacturing some of the 2918 02:37:30,190 --> 02:37:27,830 things that he had seen and measured 2919 02:37:32,920 --> 02:37:30,200 over there yeah I know and that you know 2920 02:37:36,070 --> 02:37:32,930 I didn't get to that and I should have I 2921 02:37:41,380 --> 02:37:36,080 have asked I've asked jaws about that 2922 02:37:43,990 --> 02:37:41,390 and and our a Robert Schoch and others 2923 02:37:47,200 --> 02:37:44,000 because that the first time that I saw 2924 02:37:52,750 --> 02:37:47,210 it I was like wait a minute here right 2925 02:37:56,500 --> 02:37:52,760 let me ask you what do you think I think 2926 02:38:01,360 --> 02:37:56,510 it was a ceiling fan right right it 2927 02:38:06,130 --> 02:38:01,370 looks okay all right well it is it is 2928 02:38:09,580 --> 02:38:06,140 definitely beautiful right like it is so 2929 02:38:12,700 --> 02:38:09,590 delicate and it just doesn't look like a 2930 02:38:16,660 --> 02:38:12,710 vase right it doesn't look like a bowl 2931 02:38:18,490 --> 02:38:16,670 it doesn't look like a plate it doesn't 2932 02:38:24,969 --> 02:38:18,500 you know what I mean conventional things 2933 02:38:27,550 --> 02:38:24,979 that is that is done on purpose to 2934 02:38:30,670 --> 02:38:27,560 function as something and it's too 2935 02:38:34,090 --> 02:38:30,680 beautiful I mean now okay but let me ask 2936 02:38:37,960 --> 02:38:34,100 you this Joe how was that 2937 02:38:41,889 --> 02:38:37,970 carved man that's a good question how 2938 02:38:44,280 --> 02:38:41,899 was onion it had to be cut it was cut 2939 02:38:46,540 --> 02:38:44,290 and bended you know bent I'm sorry uh 2940 02:38:49,870 --> 02:38:46,550 somehow it looks like it was cut and 2941 02:38:52,210 --> 02:38:49,880 bent with precision and it looks like it 2942 02:38:54,370 --> 02:38:52,220 was fun that meant to be spun on an axle 2943 02:38:57,340 --> 02:38:54,380 right there's a whole there's a hole in 2944 02:39:00,760 --> 02:38:57,350 the middle I don't know if it was for 2945 02:39:03,790 --> 02:39:00,770 you know water propulsion or for moving 2946 02:39:05,440 --> 02:39:03,800 air for circulation or you know through 2947 02:39:07,360 --> 02:39:05,450 some of it because they still don't know 2948 02:39:10,091 --> 02:39:07,370 how they got air down and some of 2949 02:39:13,000 --> 02:39:10,101 chambers to be able to work down that 2950 02:39:15,280 --> 02:39:13,010 deep you know so it maybe was used to 2951 02:39:19,120 --> 02:39:15,290 pump air through you know some of the 2952 02:39:23,591 --> 02:39:19,130 chambers no no okay this is what's crazy 2953 02:39:27,850 --> 02:39:23,601 I'm gonna throw this out at you if it 2954 02:39:31,570 --> 02:39:27,860 was carved right carved with with 2955 02:39:37,000 --> 02:39:31,580 somehow out of up out of a block of 2956 02:39:39,690 --> 02:39:37,010 stone then how was it carved because it 2957 02:39:45,160 --> 02:39:39,700 looks folded to me - it looks melted 2958 02:39:50,980 --> 02:39:45,170 it's so smooth and curvy but if it was 2959 02:39:54,341 --> 02:39:50,990 carved just picture as some some artisan 2960 02:39:58,480 --> 02:39:54,351 back then carving this thing I mean how 2961 02:40:01,360 --> 02:39:58,490 is that it is the inside of it too as 2962 02:40:04,990 --> 02:40:01,370 well how are you gonna carve and remove 2963 02:40:07,390 --> 02:40:05,000 the stone underneath the blades right 2964 02:40:09,341 --> 02:40:07,400 the understand what I'm saying yeah yeah 2965 02:40:10,930 --> 02:40:09,351 I presumed it was made of metal I did 2966 02:40:14,261 --> 02:40:10,940 not know it was made of stone now 2967 02:40:17,170 --> 02:40:14,271 recently I saw a video on YouTube I 2968 02:40:19,150 --> 02:40:17,180 tweeted it a little while ago but I saw 2969 02:40:22,091 --> 02:40:19,160 a video on YouTube where a guy was using 2970 02:40:24,730 --> 02:40:22,101 like these copper and bronze templates 2971 02:40:27,130 --> 02:40:24,740 to vibrate and make these impressions 2972 02:40:28,530 --> 02:40:27,140 into stone and custom stone with it you 2973 02:40:34,060 --> 02:40:28,540 know it was kind of like the same 2974 02:40:35,830 --> 02:40:34,070 process that the vibrating cast removal 2975 02:40:37,120 --> 02:40:35,840 you know that doesn't cut you you know 2976 02:40:38,261 --> 02:40:37,130 when you get a cast removed and it 2977 02:40:40,780 --> 02:40:38,271 doesn't cut you but it cuts through the 2978 02:40:42,190 --> 02:40:40,790 cast right yeah there was that kind of 2979 02:40:44,620 --> 02:40:42,200 technique like it was vibrating at high 2980 02:40:46,600 --> 02:40:44,630 frequency so maybe they had a tool like 2981 02:40:49,000 --> 02:40:46,610 that that was a temple a metal template 2982 02:40:50,920 --> 02:40:49,010 but they used to vibrate at a high 2983 02:40:53,710 --> 02:40:50,930 frequency somehow I don't know I mean 2984 02:40:56,530 --> 02:40:53,720 yep use electricity to do that in a 2985 02:40:57,820 --> 02:40:56,540 modern sense but how they carved 2986 02:41:00,400 --> 02:40:57,830 something like I did not know it was 2987 02:41:02,980 --> 02:41:00,410 made of stone that's you just I don't 2988 02:41:07,020 --> 02:41:02,990 know mind blown dude I just had no idea 2989 02:41:10,750 --> 02:41:07,030 now check this out okay 2990 02:41:13,660 --> 02:41:10,760 Egyptologists will tell you at the Cairo 2991 02:41:19,210 --> 02:41:13,670 Museum I hope you're sitting down that 2992 02:41:22,530 --> 02:41:19,220 it is a lotus flower vase yeah yeah 2993 02:41:33,280 --> 02:41:27,870 University now if that is a lotus flower 2994 02:41:36,220 --> 02:41:33,290 vase Vaz where are the other ones right 2995 02:41:39,100 --> 02:41:36,230 or they only made one there's lots of of 2996 02:41:41,860 --> 02:41:39,110 Oz's around Egypt there's tens of 2997 02:41:44,650 --> 02:41:41,870 thousands of them outside of I'm trying 2998 02:41:48,881 --> 02:41:44,660 to think of the pyramid that they were 2999 02:41:53,620 --> 02:41:48,891 excavating they found 40,000 vases 3000 02:41:56,711 --> 02:41:53,630 bosses there that even those when you 3001 02:41:59,740 --> 02:41:56,721 look at those you have to ask yourself 3002 02:42:02,350 --> 02:41:59,750 how those were made and nobody really 3003 02:42:05,530 --> 02:42:02,360 wants to address this you know because 3004 02:42:09,280 --> 02:42:05,540 they're perfect they're perfect they're 3005 02:42:11,980 --> 02:42:09,290 perfect you know and he and now the 3006 02:42:14,470 --> 02:42:11,990 pyramid I think they found it I think it 3007 02:42:15,820 --> 02:42:14,480 was I might be wrong might be Khafre I 3008 02:42:18,400 --> 02:42:15,830 think it was outside of conferring the 3009 02:42:20,881 --> 02:42:18,410 center the the middle pyramid there they 3010 02:42:23,560 --> 02:42:20,891 found these forty thousand bosses and 3011 02:42:26,080 --> 02:42:23,570 they're all on display a bunch of them 3012 02:42:28,620 --> 02:42:26,090 are on display but they're does they 3013 02:42:31,330 --> 02:42:28,630 don't talk about how they were made 3014 02:42:34,841 --> 02:42:31,340 right they'll talk about what was inside 3015 02:42:39,610 --> 02:42:34,851 of them like who cares right I don't 3016 02:42:41,200 --> 02:42:39,620 care about wheat I don't care about dirt 3017 02:42:43,480 --> 02:42:41,210 I don't care what's inside of I want to 3018 02:42:46,350 --> 02:42:43,490 know how they made them because they're 3019 02:42:50,440 --> 02:42:46,360 beautiful and now we're talking about 3020 02:42:53,650 --> 02:42:50,450 2500 BC and they replicated them one 3021 02:42:57,600 --> 02:42:53,660 after another an apparently Joe it was 3022 02:43:02,140 --> 02:42:57,610 really bleep and easy because they found 3023 02:43:06,131 --> 02:43:02,150 40,000 of them had to be it had to be 3024 02:43:07,930 --> 02:43:06,141 some kind of like a production line you 3025 02:43:09,400 --> 02:43:07,940 know which kind of brings me to my next 3026 02:43:13,360 --> 02:43:09,410 question is that if something like that 3027 02:43:15,761 --> 02:43:13,370 is so popular and is there's only one of 3028 02:43:17,650 --> 02:43:15,771 them if the pyramids were used to 3029 02:43:20,410 --> 02:43:17,660 generate electricity or some type power 3030 02:43:22,480 --> 02:43:20,420 with the Bisons were they parlament they 3031 02:43:24,970 --> 02:43:22,490 don't have any record of any kind of you 3032 02:43:26,711 --> 02:43:24,980 know you know light bulbs and homes or 3033 02:43:28,511 --> 02:43:26,721 you know nobody had a toaster or a 3034 02:43:30,370 --> 02:43:28,521 blender and he's like that you know he 3035 02:43:31,360 --> 02:43:30,380 gets it so what were they powering if it 3036 02:43:34,001 --> 02:43:31,370 was a power plant 3037 02:43:39,820 --> 02:43:34,011 what was it powering I'm 3038 02:43:44,140 --> 02:43:39,830 King here to see what the disk was made 3039 02:43:45,640 --> 02:43:44,150 of I need somebody to post it up on 3040 02:43:53,280 --> 02:43:45,650 Twitter I'm not gonna waste my time 3041 02:43:57,970 --> 02:43:53,290 right here my mind says it was like 3042 02:43:59,591 --> 02:43:57,980 black granite or diorite which even then 3043 02:44:02,261 --> 02:43:59,601 you know died right is as hard as 3044 02:44:05,081 --> 02:44:02,271 diamond or just about on the hardness 3045 02:44:09,581 --> 02:44:05,091 scale so how would you carve this and 3046 02:44:11,890 --> 02:44:09,591 smooth this if this is metal now we're 3047 02:44:14,440 --> 02:44:11,900 talking about a bonafide piece of 3048 02:44:17,940 --> 02:44:14,450 machinery I didn't know it was metal can 3049 02:44:20,740 --> 02:44:17,950 somebody tell me what the disk of uh 3050 02:44:22,661 --> 02:44:20,750 I just googled it and I got an answer 3051 02:44:26,860 --> 02:44:22,671 from Wikipedia it says it's a medium 3052 02:44:28,871 --> 02:44:26,870 grade metamorphic rock with no systems - 3053 02:44:31,331 --> 02:44:28,881 what material I'm sorry the actual 3054 02:44:33,100 --> 02:44:31,341 schist disc you keep seeing on that 3055 02:44:35,201 --> 02:44:33,110 sleep button I'm trying to try to say 3056 02:44:39,581 --> 02:44:35,211 that slowly I know it's okay you could 3057 02:44:42,041 --> 02:44:39,591 say I should ask you know but did I just 3058 02:44:44,381 --> 02:44:42,051 say that I got a bleep myself you said 3059 02:44:47,860 --> 02:44:44,391 it's made of a stone what was what was 3060 02:44:50,591 --> 02:44:47,870 the stone I was actually reading the 3061 02:44:52,990 --> 02:44:50,601 definition of the word schist in 3062 02:44:54,970 --> 02:44:53,000 wikipedia it's just is actually a stone 3063 02:44:57,520 --> 02:44:54,980 from what it sounds like 3064 02:44:59,831 --> 02:44:57,530 I may be mistaking I'm not a I'm not a 3065 02:45:02,110 --> 02:44:59,841 scholar or anything here but let me see 3066 02:45:03,881 --> 02:45:02,120 I'm yeah I'm trying to find it to 3067 02:45:07,900 --> 02:45:03,891 somebody somebody's going to post it 3068 02:45:13,930 --> 02:45:07,910 here in Twitter somebody just said it's 3069 02:45:19,841 --> 02:45:13,940 a composite come on everybody let's go 3070 02:45:23,501 --> 02:45:19,851 what is it made out of but it because I 3071 02:45:25,780 --> 02:45:23,511 remember when I first saw it years years 3072 02:45:28,631 --> 02:45:25,790 years years ago oh my god I don't I 3073 02:45:32,650 --> 02:45:28,641 don't even know I thought it was metal I 3074 02:45:36,610 --> 02:45:32,660 thought it was metal but then it really 3075 02:45:38,860 --> 02:45:36,620 does how big it's about a foot it's 3076 02:45:42,390 --> 02:45:38,870 about a foot I've seen it in the display 3077 02:45:47,470 --> 02:45:42,400 case Wow it's about a foot in diameter 3078 02:45:51,070 --> 02:45:47,480 but delicate material required 3079 02:45:54,280 --> 02:45:51,080 carving so it must be some kind of stone 3080 02:45:58,211 --> 02:45:54,290 or something you see here find this real 3081 02:46:03,220 --> 02:45:58,221 quick but okay well now there what was 3082 02:46:06,341 --> 02:46:03,230 the second question about the the things 3083 02:46:07,570 --> 02:46:06,351 that you know pyramids were powering you 3084 02:46:09,400 --> 02:46:07,580 know a source of power 3085 02:46:10,751 --> 02:46:09,410 what were they power what what devices 3086 02:46:13,541 --> 02:46:10,761 where they are you know we don't find 3087 02:46:15,371 --> 02:46:13,551 you know Egyptian toasters or blenders 3088 02:46:18,310 --> 02:46:15,381 or microwave ovens or anything like that 3089 02:46:19,480 --> 02:46:18,320 a light bulbs even well maybe you know I 3090 02:46:21,131 --> 02:46:19,490 mean there's a question about whether 3091 02:46:23,411 --> 02:46:21,141 they had light bulbs or not what some of 3092 02:46:26,201 --> 02:46:23,421 those hard lifx that they have that 3093 02:46:28,121 --> 02:46:26,211 might indicate that but other than light 3094 02:46:31,690 --> 02:46:28,131 bulbs what else could have been have 3095 02:46:34,121 --> 02:46:31,700 been powering right see now you heard 3096 02:46:36,911 --> 02:46:34,131 Chris Dunn's answer was you know 3097 02:46:40,301 --> 02:46:36,921 powering cities and civilization and and 3098 02:46:43,871 --> 02:46:40,311 maybe beaming the energy to something 3099 02:46:49,921 --> 02:46:43,881 else off planet or to the moon it's 3100 02:46:54,070 --> 02:46:49,931 always made out of meta sitstone meta 3101 02:46:56,171 --> 02:46:54,080 sitstone siltstone metals Salone what 3102 02:47:05,381 --> 02:46:56,181 they I don't even know what that is 3103 02:47:10,360 --> 02:47:05,391 Olaf or so Metis is has undergone its 3104 02:47:14,291 --> 02:47:10,370 that's even a stone a silt stone that 3105 02:47:23,530 --> 02:47:14,301 has gone under metamorphism to some 3106 02:47:31,240 --> 02:47:23,540 degree whatever that is material that 3107 02:47:33,551 --> 02:47:31,250 has a range of silt and clay oh so now 3108 02:47:36,371 --> 02:47:33,561 we're getting so hmm 3109 02:47:39,371 --> 02:47:36,381 it could ha wow that's even more 3110 02:47:40,001 --> 02:47:39,381 fascinating to me what minerals are in 3111 02:47:45,581 --> 02:47:40,011 it 3112 02:47:47,680 --> 02:47:45,591 iron oxide silica ah okay compacted 3113 02:47:50,711 --> 02:47:47,690 together cemented together into a solid 3114 02:47:52,900 --> 02:47:50,721 stone it's composited from iron oxides 3115 02:47:55,180 --> 02:47:52,910 and cementing materials 3116 02:47:57,100 --> 02:47:55,190 there you go minerals are deposited in 3117 02:47:58,131 --> 02:47:57,110 the spaces between the silt grains by 3118 02:48:00,961 --> 02:47:58,141 water 3119 02:48:04,680 --> 02:48:00,971 that's even more fascinating it's a 3120 02:48:08,970 --> 02:48:04,690 composite material for sure is this this 3121 02:48:12,810 --> 02:48:08,980 is what I what about and I know we're 3122 02:48:18,571 --> 02:48:12,820 getting into crazy science fiction and 3123 02:48:26,970 --> 02:48:18,581 and Stargate and all of that but what if 3124 02:48:29,581 --> 02:48:26,980 it was a transporting device using that 3125 02:48:33,421 --> 02:48:29,591 net energy to go to a parallel world to 3126 02:48:38,671 --> 02:48:33,431 go to another dimension a teleporter 3127 02:48:41,911 --> 02:48:38,681 type of situation that you were placed 3128 02:48:48,901 --> 02:48:41,921 into this is what I thought you lay down 3129 02:48:53,701 --> 02:48:48,911 in the sarcophagus and poof beam me up 3130 02:48:57,810 --> 02:48:53,711 right right right right okay I'm just 3131 02:48:59,850 --> 02:48:57,820 saying you know you got enough material 3132 02:49:01,680 --> 02:48:59,860 for a second interview with mr. Dunn I 3133 02:49:06,211 --> 02:49:01,690 thought for sure he's not off with that 3134 02:49:09,241 --> 02:49:06,221 stuff well Graham Hancock talks enough 3135 02:49:10,831 --> 02:49:09,251 about this and and and I have to I 3136 02:49:12,781 --> 02:49:10,841 listen to everybody I listen to 3137 02:49:14,241 --> 02:49:12,791 everything I'm I'm trying to figure this 3138 02:49:19,560 --> 02:49:14,251 out so it's like everybody else's but 3139 02:49:26,421 --> 02:49:19,570 but Graham definitely talks about this 3140 02:49:29,850 --> 02:49:26,431 being a transformational place to go 3141 02:49:33,961 --> 02:49:29,860 transported into the afterlife right and 3142 02:49:38,821 --> 02:49:33,971 so in in some aspect we don't really 3143 02:49:41,161 --> 02:49:38,831 fully understand what that may mean but 3144 02:49:45,060 --> 02:49:41,171 there are suggestions in a lot of the 3145 02:49:49,621 --> 02:49:45,070 text to support this idea but are we 3146 02:49:53,001 --> 02:49:49,631 going to the next level where what is 3147 02:49:56,331 --> 02:49:53,011 what I'm suggesting you know actually 3148 02:49:59,430 --> 02:49:56,341 transport it I'm talking about you Joe 3149 02:50:02,011 --> 02:49:59,440 disappearing yeah right and appearing 3150 02:50:04,951 --> 02:50:02,021 somewhere else into into another 3151 02:50:08,179 --> 02:50:04,961 dimension into a parallel world to Mars 3152 02:50:11,679 --> 02:50:08,189 I don't know and if we're going you know 3153 02:50:16,010 --> 02:50:11,689 and taking it into the Stargate idea and 3154 02:50:19,190 --> 02:50:16,020 and and presupposing something like this 3155 02:50:23,150 --> 02:50:19,200 well okay I'm okay with it and the 3156 02:50:25,130 --> 02:50:23,160 reason why I listen to anybody's ideas 3157 02:50:30,800 --> 02:50:25,140 here is because quite simply what nobody 3158 02:50:32,660 --> 02:50:30,810 knows nobody knows nobody knows it's 3159 02:50:34,429 --> 02:50:32,670 just disk being made of that kind of 3160 02:50:37,010 --> 02:50:34,439 material I don't think it was used to 3161 02:50:41,060 --> 02:50:37,020 cut were born through anything it wasn't 3162 02:50:42,590 --> 02:50:41,070 a tip it wasn't cutting - it was used to 3163 02:50:44,660 --> 02:50:42,600 do something else 3164 02:50:46,429 --> 02:50:44,670 you know I mean if it was used to cut 3165 02:50:49,429 --> 02:50:46,439 you're not gonna cut granite with a 3166 02:50:51,139 --> 02:50:49,439 piece of that kind of stone like that it 3167 02:50:53,360 --> 02:50:51,149 sounds like it's fragile it sounds like 3168 02:50:55,010 --> 02:50:53,370 it would crack or break so it had to 3169 02:50:56,900 --> 02:50:55,020 spin it might have some kind of 3170 02:51:00,679 --> 02:50:56,910 properties when it spins you know that 3171 02:51:04,550 --> 02:51:00,689 uh yeah if it's in there about an 3172 02:51:11,450 --> 02:51:04,560 exhaust fan in the Giza pizza parlor 3173 02:51:14,120 --> 02:51:11,460 right let's just say and I'm not being 3174 02:51:19,450 --> 02:51:14,130 funny here I'm not being funny because 3175 02:51:23,450 --> 02:51:19,460 it looks to me to be very propeller ish 3176 02:51:28,790 --> 02:51:23,460 right I'd like it was designed to sit on 3177 02:51:32,660 --> 02:51:28,800 a shaft in some kind of tube and it was 3178 02:51:36,139 --> 02:51:32,670 moving volumes of air you know or water 3179 02:51:38,060 --> 02:51:36,149 or water right that and that's what it 3180 02:51:40,460 --> 02:51:38,070 looked at I'm sorry that's what it looks 3181 02:51:44,810 --> 02:51:40,470 like to me it doesn't it doesn't look 3182 02:51:47,150 --> 02:51:44,820 like a lotus flower of Oz and if I had 3183 02:51:48,889 --> 02:51:47,160 to guess it's not you know if I had to 3184 02:51:50,990 --> 02:51:48,899 guess that'd I'd say it was moving air 3185 02:51:53,300 --> 02:51:51,000 in those chambers while they were 3186 02:51:55,130 --> 02:51:53,310 working down there because you can't go 3187 02:51:58,690 --> 02:51:55,140 too far like in those gold mines and 3188 02:52:02,240 --> 02:51:58,700 stuff you know you can't go too far in a 3189 02:52:05,450 --> 02:52:02,250 gonna gonna cave like that or in a yacht 3190 02:52:09,350 --> 02:52:05,460 tunnel without running out of oxygen you 3191 02:52:12,260 --> 02:52:09,360 know fresh oxygen boom you will pass out 3192 02:52:14,990 --> 02:52:12,270 and die after uh you know a pretty good 3193 02:52:17,179 --> 02:52:15,000 distance so they had to have something 3194 02:52:20,330 --> 02:52:17,189 that move that air wonder if anybody 3195 02:52:21,831 --> 02:52:20,340 could 3d print it you know and spin it 3196 02:52:24,951 --> 02:52:21,841 you know and see what happens 3197 02:52:28,281 --> 02:52:24,961 and somebody somewhere has to have made 3198 02:52:30,951 --> 02:52:28,291 a model oh I'm looking at one here I'm 3199 02:52:36,201 --> 02:52:30,961 looking at a 3d printed version of it 3200 02:52:40,161 --> 02:52:36,211 right here Wow look at this okay hold on 3201 02:52:44,211 --> 02:52:40,171 for a second let me are you on are you 3202 02:52:47,900 --> 02:52:44,221 on Twitter I am at real jelly dude okay 3203 02:52:49,520 --> 02:52:47,910 Billy okay okay hang on know what I'm 3204 02:52:53,331 --> 02:52:49,530 gonna tell you to do is just go straight 3205 02:52:58,671 --> 02:52:53,341 over to Twitter right now and I am going 3206 02:53:00,610 --> 02:52:58,681 to post this right now I messed it up 3207 02:53:04,251 --> 02:53:00,620 okay it doesn't matter 3208 02:53:06,230 --> 02:53:04,261 do-do-do-do-do-do Peru I love doing this 3209 02:53:08,121 --> 02:53:06,240 live on the air see this is what I act 3210 02:53:11,241 --> 02:53:08,131 like when I'm on the computer I don't 3211 02:53:15,831 --> 02:53:11,251 know what I'm doing okay now check this 3212 02:53:18,320 --> 02:53:15,841 out I just posted BAM a 3d printed 3213 02:53:21,951 --> 02:53:18,330 version of it go and check it out 3214 02:53:26,770 --> 02:53:21,961 hashtag every way or go to my feed wow I 3215 02:53:29,270 --> 02:53:26,780 see it I know right yeah all right 3216 02:53:31,610 --> 02:53:29,280 could that have been I mean because it's 3217 02:53:34,610 --> 02:53:31,620 not you know like a fan or a propeller 3218 02:53:38,810 --> 02:53:34,620 would have to have one edge of those 3219 02:53:43,220 --> 02:53:38,820 blades would have to be off it wouldn't 3220 02:53:45,501 --> 02:53:43,230 be movement you know yeah to cause 3221 02:53:49,491 --> 02:53:45,511 movement forward or up or down or 3222 02:53:51,440 --> 02:53:49,501 whatever to change the flow no they'd 3223 02:53:53,511 --> 02:53:51,450 have to create lift whether its water or 3224 02:53:56,241 --> 02:53:53,521 whatever air or whatever it have to 3225 02:54:01,600 --> 02:53:56,251 create somehow lift so maybe it was used 3226 02:54:05,331 --> 02:54:01,610 to I don't know say look that's how 3227 02:54:07,400 --> 02:54:05,341 you'd have to put that on a shaft so it 3228 02:54:09,650 --> 02:54:07,410 could spin freely and then pour water 3229 02:54:11,331 --> 02:54:09,660 over it or blow on it and see what 3230 02:54:12,951 --> 02:54:11,341 happens you know 3231 02:54:15,680 --> 02:54:12,961 and it could also be some kind of 3232 02:54:18,801 --> 02:54:15,690 leveling you know if you had a liquid in 3233 02:54:22,581 --> 02:54:18,811 the middle that it would then drip over 3234 02:54:26,541 --> 02:54:22,591 the holes once it was full and maybe it 3235 02:54:28,581 --> 02:54:26,551 was some kind of control device maybe 3236 02:54:30,320 --> 02:54:28,591 it's no wouldn't different fell off or 3237 02:54:32,301 --> 02:54:30,330 wind generally you know wind power 3238 02:54:34,340 --> 02:54:32,311 generation anything like that what you 3239 02:54:37,280 --> 02:54:34,350 know what we're looking at it we're 3240 02:54:38,929 --> 02:54:37,290 looking at it with our modern minds here 3241 02:54:42,800 --> 02:54:38,939 because we know what a propeller looks 3242 02:54:45,889 --> 02:54:42,810 like right but right we don't know with 3243 02:54:51,050 --> 02:54:45,899 what would happen to this if wind or 3244 02:54:53,750 --> 02:54:51,060 liquid was was moving past this or or 3245 02:54:56,389 --> 02:54:53,760 when I get told it could be a toy you 3246 02:54:58,700 --> 02:54:56,399 know you know what I just thought you 3247 02:55:01,070 --> 02:54:58,710 know what I just thought what if it was 3248 02:55:03,729 --> 02:55:01,080 like a grinding device like at the 3249 02:55:07,760 --> 02:55:03,739 bottom of a blender 3250 02:55:14,990 --> 02:55:07,770 yeah like to blend coffee yeah oh and 3251 02:55:18,439 --> 02:55:15,000 coffee that blend coffee what if it did 3252 02:55:24,070 --> 02:55:18,449 something else what if it was a blending 3253 02:55:27,349 --> 02:55:24,080 type of maybe it was combining something 3254 02:55:30,410 --> 02:55:27,359 mortar mixing mortar mixing two liquids 3255 02:55:32,179 --> 02:55:30,420 together no no I like the way you think 3256 02:55:33,740 --> 02:55:32,189 man I like the way you think I would 3257 02:55:36,469 --> 02:55:33,750 have never thought of it if you didn't 3258 02:55:39,139 --> 02:55:36,479 call Joe well I wish we would have been 3259 02:55:40,760 --> 02:55:39,149 able to get mr. Dunn to take a look at 3260 02:55:43,399 --> 02:55:40,770 that and see what his opinion is yeah I 3261 02:55:46,370 --> 02:55:43,409 did I didn't I thought about it like 3262 02:55:48,500 --> 02:55:46,380 three or four times but I can tell you 3263 02:55:55,490 --> 02:55:48,510 what it I can I can tell you what it's 3264 02:55:58,370 --> 02:55:55,500 not it's not a lotus flower boss pretty 3265 02:56:00,260 --> 02:55:58,380 confident pretty cocky there hey Joe 3266 02:56:03,229 --> 02:56:00,270 thank you so much man and we'll see it 3267 02:56:08,719 --> 02:56:03,239 tomorrow night Brad Claussen is here are 3268 02:56:13,130 --> 02:56:08,729 you were you uh were you uh were you a 3269 02:56:20,870 --> 02:56:13,140 fan of his artwork that Brad Claussen 3270 02:56:26,630 --> 02:56:20,880 tomorrow night what do you mean you 3271 02:56:28,969 --> 02:56:26,640 weren't what's your favorite band oh I'd 3272 02:56:31,070 --> 02:56:28,979 have to say rush Pink Floyd Iron Maiden 3273 02:56:37,160 --> 02:56:31,080 yes something like that I'll play bass 3274 02:56:40,490 --> 02:56:37,170 oh right what about Pearl Jam oh well he 3275 02:56:43,670 --> 02:56:40,500 did all of Pearl Jam's uh artwork he was 3276 02:56:45,050 --> 02:56:43,680 there in-house designer oh really 3277 02:56:49,090 --> 02:56:45,060 yeah he's gonna be able to mark that's 3278 02:56:51,590 --> 02:56:49,100 tomorrow night Wow 3279 02:56:54,110 --> 02:56:51,600 Egypt he's gonna be on cooking yeah 3280 02:56:58,460 --> 02:56:54,120 that's right because it's his research 3281 02:57:02,870 --> 02:56:58,470 into symbolism and ancient Egyptian art 3282 02:57:04,580 --> 02:57:02,880 and sculpture that he has figured out a 3283 02:57:07,310 --> 02:57:04,590 bunch of this symbolism and what it 3284 02:57:10,430 --> 02:57:07,320 means and it's it's going to be an 3285 02:57:14,900 --> 02:57:10,440 incredible show and he incorporates this 3286 02:57:16,160 --> 02:57:14,910 back into his artwork yeah Wow you need 3287 02:57:20,240 --> 02:57:16,170 to check that out I'll see you tomorrow 3288 02:57:22,490 --> 02:57:20,250 night Joe be safe and be well thank you 3289 02:57:24,170 --> 02:57:22,500 so much thank you Joe great phone call 3290 02:57:27,350 --> 02:57:24,180 right there really appreciate that 3291 02:57:31,550 --> 02:57:27,360 the cebú disc I still don't know what it 3292 02:57:35,270 --> 02:57:31,560 is it's definitely not a lotus flower 3293 02:57:38,360 --> 02:57:35,280 Vaz and with that oh man I got a mute 3294 02:57:40,160 --> 02:57:38,370 Joe there okay I gotta get out of here 3295 02:57:43,850 --> 02:57:40,170 what a great conversation tonight 3296 02:57:46,130 --> 02:57:43,860 tomorrow night is night 3 of our Egypt 3297 02:57:49,910 --> 02:57:46,140 week like I just said Brad Claussen is 3298 02:57:52,880 --> 02:57:49,920 gonna be here just an amazing manu Chris 3299 02:57:55,250 --> 02:57:52,890 and Brad all in one week and I'll see 3300 02:57:59,469 --> 02:57:55,260 everybody right here tomorrow night and 3301 02:58:04,010 --> 02:57:59,479 I think I got the I got the hall pass 3302 02:58:06,950 --> 02:58:04,020 for Morita it's taco truck night so I'm 3303 02:58:10,820 --> 02:58:06,960 gonna go out and find me a taco truck 3304 02:58:14,120 --> 02:58:10,830 and head home and get some D I am your 3305 02:58:16,250 --> 02:58:14,130 host Jimmy church paid to Black's 3306 02:58:18,230 --> 02:58:16,260 executive producers Rita Kumari on shows 3307 02:58:21,260 --> 02:58:18,240 produced by Hill J palm Renae Dennison 3308 02:58:24,530 --> 02:58:21,270 Bob announces our Steve harder gene veto 3309 02:58:28,130 --> 02:58:24,540 a marked eco VAR webmaster is drew the 3310 02:58:31,400 --> 02:58:28,140 geek music doug aldrich intro space boys 3311 02:58:34,640 --> 02:58:31,410 space boy music calm fade to black is 3312 02:58:37,230 --> 02:58:34,650 produced by kjsurya and syndication is 3313 02:58:39,270 --> 02:58:37,240 katie ra the planet 3314 02:58:40,470 --> 02:58:39,280 I got to thank Christopher Dunn for 3315 02:58:43,470 --> 02:58:40,480 coming in tonight what a great 3316 02:58:46,620 --> 02:58:43,480 conversation I waited for that for so 3317 02:58:48,750 --> 02:58:46,630 many years it's podcast zona copyright 3318 02:58:51,290 --> 02:58:48,760 at 2018 bye fade to black in the game 3319 02:58:54,091 --> 02:58:51,300 changer Network it cannot be copied 3320 02:58:56,190 --> 02:58:54,101 rebroadcast downloaded or used anywhere 3321 02:58:57,841 --> 02:58:56,200 in the known universe without written 3322 02:59:00,570 --> 02:58:57,851 permission from paid to black of the 3323 02:59:03,660 --> 02:59:00,580 GameChanger Network I am your host Jimmy 3324 02:59:07,261 --> 02:59:03,670 Church follow me on twitter @jj church 3325 02:59:09,381 --> 02:59:07,271 radio tried Brad Claussen until then 3326 02:59:12,990 --> 02:59:09,391 everybody be saved